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UK--I wouldn't call yours a junk pack, I'd call it a scratch built because parts were measured and cut with care, and you achieved a pretty good screen accuracy. There is I think a gray area though, where a junk pack can start to become a higher quality scratch build with the right time and talent invested in it.
Generally I think of a junk pack as something built with non-permanent materials, with not much regard for screen accuracy. I also like to call them hobo-packs because hobo is a neat word. You bought switches and an Alice frame too..that takes some amount effort and money--not an attribute of a junk pack.
Of course the term junk pack is slightly inflamatory and can offend people who made what we might consider a junk pack because that's all they can make or afford to make.
Instead of junk packs, let's call them accuracy challenged packs.

Yeah that pack looks great.

"One man's trash is another man's...pack?" I'm gonna start saying "hobo pack" all the time now.

Yours is not a Junk Pack.
Junk Packs are not made to any plans and don't tend to be very screen accurate. But they do resemble the overall look and impression of a Proton Pack

Here are some Junk Packs:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6752&hilit=+junk+pack

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2033&hilit=+junk+pack

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1588&hilit=junk+pack

Also I think your taking loly2kn2's quote very wrongly .He just said that junk packs are not his cup of tea?
As you can see in the posts in the above threads, not all of us are the hugest fan of Junk Packs but do appreciate the creativity of them

Here's how I see it

I'd say a "junk pack" is a pack made from found objects that "resemble" the real packs parts (ie: a Clippard valve made from a film canister) the builder here is trying to make something on a budget and wants it to be close. To say it's "junk" is really not p/c, I tend to call them "hardware packs" myself.


A "scratch built" pack is one made to resemble closely the screen pack and is made from "scratch" by the builder using wood or styrene or foamcore or even aluminum but attention to detail is a bit higher than a "junk" pack, the builder is going for accuracy but wants to do it without buying pre-made parts. Slimer7's wood packs come to mind and look really nice when completed.

A "custom pack" is one made to look ,well...." custom", unlike any other. Like the futuristic pack I made or even the Mac pack

A "movie style" pack is one made to resemble the film used packs down to the littlest details (may not be 100% ....but whose is right? ) but the intention here is to use as accurate parts as possible and as many "real" parts and or machined parts as possible to acheive the desired look of the movie pack.

The fact that anyone attempts to "make" something deserves credit and regardless of it being good, bad or otherwise doesn't really matter. What matters is they did it, posted it and called it their own.

Prop building in my opinion is an art form, and like art has it's critics...and who listens to critics anyways

sorry guys my mistake, i just thought the term came from the materials you used.
i wasnt intending to be arsey to lawerence. sorry if it sounded that way.

this is gonna probably sound wrong, hopefully you will understand what i mean.
hardware/hobo/junk packs give the image of proton packs to your everyday person whos watched and seen the films, and people associate that with ghostbusters, plus like stated by andy we admire them for there creativity.
i never used 2 pay attention to the packs when i used 2 watch the films just wanted 1, but since making 1, i cant watch the films without thinking i gota change that colour that and so on.
that now ive become so accuracy made, its annoying.
so wen 1 of us attention crazed guys see some1 elses less accuate pack, u automatically think its not right, im speaking on a whole, not generally just me,
quoteing myself again, 'if people cant or dont wanna spend the money' on an accuate pack, thats fine and like irricanian said its still deserves credit
ok hopefully that makes sense.

Once again sorry lawerence, i didnt mean to sound arsey in my post. Carl

I made mine out of garbage.. old Banana peels.. etc.

Please post pics so we can.....ah never mind.

We can call that an "Enviro pack" or a "Green pack"

http://www.gbfans.com/fans/props/proton-packs/1608/2/
I think my pack is a combination of: "a junk pack" "a scratch built pack" and "a custom pack", you guys agree?

it's a macgeyver pack

Speaking of "junk" packs...As a joke, my friend and I thought about going to a con as the "sweded" version of ghostbusters.

Haha
That's actually really cool idea !

Ah yes the "scratchjunkcustom" pack LOL

HEY!

Brad's Burgh Pack, lol

That reminds me, I can't remember the last time we heard from bradboss. Is everything OK, or am I behind on current events?

he's been posting on here here and there and he was on for the 1989 showing of GB.

he's busy working on props for our movie and doing chores and helping his kid with homework too tho

actually that reminds me i need to ask him about making a pke and a trap

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BRING HIS PACK INTO THIS

For my first junk/cardboard/hobo/cheap bastard pack, it's okay. Looking back I don't know how I got off on so many measurements. I do know I can do better now and hopefully intend to soon with a "real" movie style pack. The gun attachment was added because doubtful mounting it on cardboard would have been good. Looking back, it's not too bad but yes at first I'll admit I was a little unsure about posting it.

Or I had to add in all the disclaimers to what was wrong with it. I do that with everything I work on though

If it makes you feel better Fisk his pack doesnt look like that anymore, he has actually improved it alot and it looks pretty good. He's also made a Burgh Pack Mark 2 as well as a few other custom pieces.

He has the BPM2 in the Fan Props section along with his Area 51 Pack he made

Woo-hoo! YEAH! I'm famous, BABY! That is the "Frankenpacktastic" OOAK Burgh PAck Mark 1. And yes, I posted it, and it got a hellstorm of hate and some praise for my ballsiness. Dave is right--I' have been so damned busy building props that i haven't had a chance to post them. I post all my stuff. If people think it's crap, the will of God, the sign of the End Times, gave Bo something to rant about, whatever. I'm almsot done with Ryan's 2 packs (got some SWEEEEET parts from Iccaranian AKA MMM) and I'm waiting for the Exoray kits so I can put the other thrower and pack together. There are FOUR nearly identical Burgh Pack Mark II's for the upcoming fanfim (these are "Hardware" packs buildt from store bought and donated electronics junk) Ryan's packs are "kit" packs made from resin parts and ALICE frames with an aluminum back (I'm going to hate sending them back to him, but a deal is a deal!)

oh, and from this (self-admitted) monstrosity grew our current Steel City Ghostbuster's franchise. If certain folks hadn't raised such a fuss over it, Dave would never have known we were 15 min away from each other (and my basement wouldn't look like a flea market exploded, I would be a thousand $$ richer, my wife wouln't have threatend to leave me, etc. ) : )

I will always praise you for your creativity Brad. No matter how it looks, it's something you made yourself. Though talent is certainly used while making a prop replica, you are also copying something someone else has done, you can get creative in what you make it out of, but it's still on an original idea from you in the design. I know alot of people rag on the steampunk people, but alot of them are making something entirely new or reimaging something and alot of prop replica makers chastise them for it. Some, like myself will continue to strive to have a very accurate pack, some may make a junk pack and use it forever and be happy with it. The public sure never knows the difference. Just do what you're going to do and don't worry about what others say.

Thanks! Obviously, they haven't stopped me yet. I REALLY have to post some pics of my GB lab, Gadgets, packs, etc. I just tossed together some (decent) Ectogoggles using old PVC sink traps, old rusty welding goggles, and some bass wood strips. Pics to follow...

I’m sorry guys. I didn’t mean to sound degrading in that post. He’s actually the best example in this topic. I admirer him for showing his prop to everyone and never letting the criticism bring him down. Instead, he listened to the criticism and used it to help upgrade. He cherishes his work no madder what. I have to say, this guy has a wonderful mindset in handling the situation.

old Burgh Pack prototype (I was playing with ideas, shapes. This is why I don't post progress pics. People don't know what I'm doing, get upset, yell, etc.



Thanks! This is the latest "creation" of mine. Oh, thanks to Charlie for the "Testicle" post. I need to to shuffle when I walk, or take the Ecto-scooter LOL! : ) Enjoy!



thrower in progress



Burgh Pack Mark II almost done

Whether you like it or not, that's your thing. I hope if I hang out long enough, maybe the noobs will post their stuff. Sometimes passion for something can turn dark, and people get offended. It's a shame, because we all LOVE GB's. This is going to be a GREAT year for all of us, boys and girls! : )

is this about meeting another ghostbuster prop builder and noticing that his proton wand is longer than yours?

It's not the size of your thrower, it;'s how you use it... : P

Nope. Its the size.

Its both..

WTF IS THAT???

I...I...I don't know what to say.....

Nice to know old posts can come back to haunt you.

Once I'm done with props for the movie I think I'm going to invent something new. That pack was so like 2 yrs ago. : )