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So I saw a couple of posts on here from a few years back about people's takes on Ghostbusters 3. I had some ideas for what I'd do as I'm an aspiring TV writer... okay, wannabe writer... okay, I wrote 1 professional TV special... Anyways, I thought I'd share my idea, in hopes of hearing what other people would do if they were in charge of this next movie. I've got a detailed treatment of an opening scene, and a vague outline of the rest of the movie. Here goes:
We open on a classic Manhattan brownstone, late evening. A pair of moving trucks takes off as a typical upper class New York couple, mid 40’s, vigorously bickers inside. They wade through the wasteland of boxes while their teenaged kids sit in front of the spot where the TV will be, faces buried in laptops. As this happens the camera moves upwards and tilts down, sinisterly watching the whole scene. Something is already in the house.
Finally, the wife wins this particular argument – the husband’s high school football trophies will live in the basement. As she hefts the box and heads downstairs, something is definitely not right. Lights flicker, she can see her breath, and she's definitely not alone. Unnerved, she calls upstairs to say that she’s coming back. She throws open the closet door but is terrified to find… a ghost! She shrieks, drops her box and then… stops. A look of annoyed frustration covers her face. The now-puny spook whizzes past her as she bellows:
“Harold, I thought you were gonna call the goddamn Ghostbusters!”
“I did call them, Joanne! They said they’d be here between 10am and 9:30!”
Cut to: Outside, a vaguely familiar vehicle pulls up to the curb. But this isn’t the Ectomobile we all know and love. Picture the lame van of a cable company technician, white with red trim, and obnoxiously huge “No Ghost” logos on either side. On the roof are two ladders and a set of unimpressive tiny blue headlights. The doors open and two “Paranormal Service Representatives” lazily spring into action. These are the guys who would have chosen VCR Repair, if VCRs still existed. Their uniforms are crisp red and white, with a few too many logos and “Who ya gonna call?” emblazoned on the back. They open the back doors to reveal their equipment: it all looks sleek and mass-produced, like it was designed by Microsoft but not very well taken care of. They don their much-more compact Proton Packs, which are small enough to give them the appearance of teenage girls at the mall.
Later on inside one of the “Ghostbusters” argues with the couple about their “Ectoplasmic Liability Insurance Policy”, while his partner scans the tiny beast and exclaims, “Whoa, this thing is almost a Class 2!” (setting off another round of insurance haggling). As he corners the specter, he jumps – but instead of pulling a Proton Thrower, a dinky wand extends from his wrist. A focused beam of light shoots form the wand, completely entrapping the ghost, allowing him to move it across the room and deposit it in his partner’s backpack. As they leave the wife calls out “You’ll be hearing from our insurance adjustor”. One of the “Ghostbusters” turns, but instead of arguing he blithely asks to use the can.
From here we meet a young doctor (eager, nerdy, just out of Grad School) who is interviewing to join the Ghostbusters R&D Dept – his dream since he was a kid. As he arrives at “Ghostbusters Inc.” he visits the firehouse/ museum/ gift shop, before heading to the corporate headquarters across the street. While searching the directory for the R&D floor, he meets a female Ghostbuster (mid-30’s, wry, funny, seen-it-all) who tries to downplay his expectations. Suddenly a frantic Ray Stantz blows past them, on his way to a Board of Directors meeting.
We follow Ray to the meeting, full of suits and executives, which has started without him. Winston is teleconferencing in, on the road setting up a new franchise in Regina, Saskatchewan. Egon is live via hologram, completely invested in research in the labs downstairs. Finally Venkman is live on a teleconference TV screen, sitting on a beach drinking mojitos. The meeting establishes that Ghostbusters is the #1 ghost-elimination franchise in America (though there are competitors). Business is booming through a combination of lucrative government contracts, and that fact that ghosts have gotten steadily less powerful over the past decade – hence the unimpressive display in the first scene. As the ghosts weakened so has the technology, not to mention the standards of the company. A Ghostbuster is now about as respected as an Orkin Man. We can see in Stantz’s eyes – this isn’t how it used to be.
This is carried through in the new kid’s interview. In spite of his childhood idolization of the Ghostbusters, he is now hugely overqualified for the job. There’s not much R&D to be done (save what Spengler does himself behind closed doors). The HR lady turns him away, suggesting that NASA might be a better fit. He leaves dejected, talking to the female Ghostbuster from earlier as he leaves.
Then shit starts to get real. Something big happens (think the explosion of energy in the Gozer exhibit in the video game). We are introduced to our big bad (admittedly, I’m not sure what this would be). Now the ghosts in New York are getting stronger again. Ghostbusters are finding they're no match for the spooks they’re trying to catch. Spengler and Ray are convinced this has something to do with the recent Psychokinetic Event, but they can’t convince the board to overhaul the entire company’s equipment (it turns out they’ve cried wolf before about things like this). So they put their own team together: The female Ghostbuster, who is one of the only competent people on their staff; the young doctor (who she recommends); and the two idiots from the first scene. As the movie goes on the original team comes back together to mentor the new team. They shut down the gift shop and use it as their home base, outfitting the newbies with their old equipment (the only stuff strong enough to catch these newly re-empowered ghosts), while Egon and Ray continue to modify and upgrade the gadgets. Finally the new Ghostbusters team ends up saving the city (with the old team playing, hopefully, as active a role as possible).
So yeah, that’s pretty much how I’d approach this. Bear in mind, I don’t think this is the only way to go. I’m also certain that if the movie sees the light of day, I will likely be WAY off in how it turns out. I’ve already heard that they want a “the Ghostbusters have been out of business for years, and now come back to set up a new team" story. Personally, I don't think this movie should start again with the old team down and out - I'd love to see what happens after they've become phenomenally successful.
I just hope that they focus on making the movie actually funny. All of the action in the first movie always takes a back seat to the very dry and smart comedy (in the first movie you really only see them busting ghosts, in uniform, in the Sedgwick scene and at versus Gozer. Everything else happens off-screen).
I think they made the right move by bringing the two guys from “The Office” in to write it – I honestly don’t think Ramis and Aykroyd would be up to this these days. However, I did see “Year One”, written by these same two guys, and it was pretty awful. It seemed they assumed the actors would improvise great jokes based on a pretty weak script. Though many of the best jokes in the original Ghostbusters were improvised, the script itself is actually very tight, with most of the humour on the page. I think a big difference was that Ramis, Murray, and Aykroyd had a history doing comedy and improvising together, while everyone in “Year One” came from different backgrounds.
Anyways, I’ve yammered on long enough. This is my take on the movie. Tell me what you think, or what you’d do.
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It doesn't sound like a bad beginning, im not much of a writer so i will just give you compliments. I do like that fact that you took every character and gave them their own job in the new "ghostbuster inc." all the roles fit the characters.
However, i would like to hear Fritz's ideas and version of the story. Fritz...?
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I've been toying with the idea of trying to do something local, something similar to Ghostbustin 911 and I had a few ideas for a start for that. However, I think that one of the ideas would be a nice addition to GB3.
A couple is sitting in their car at a stop light, it's close to midnight and the roads are dead, no one in sight. As the light turns green and they start to move a phantom semi truck (complete with trailer) rockets past them, nearly clipping the front of the car. As they sit dumbfounded and frightened the ghostbuster theme song begins to play and a familiar sound is heard, the siren of an ectomobile as it shoots past in hot pursuit of the ghost truck. The couple looks at each other and then the camera cuts to the actual chase.
Further up the road a lone ghostbuster throws out a strip of traps ( think spike strip) across the road and waits for the pursuit to reach him. The truck reaches the traps and is sucked in, ending the chase.
Whatcha think?
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I think I have posted this in a couple different places before, so some of you may have read it, but here's my take. I've got a pretty cool intro that I hand wrote somewhere, but I'll have to find it and type it up.
Anyway, here's my plot:
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If I was doing it, we'd start with the crew preparing to expand from operating only in the upper north of the east coast, to a full on Ghostbusters Inc., with company branches world wide. They've got employees trained, offices built, equipment all set. At midnight at the end of the week, GB Inc. is set to go online world wide. The guys are getting older and as much as they love the job, it's harder to perform efficiently. Ray convinces them to all go on one last bust together, however, as field agents (working GBs). Once GB Inc. starts up, they'll act more as CEOs, with Egon and Ray spending most of their time in labs developing new things, Peter still functioning as the mouth of the company at stuff like shareholder's meetings and other such things, and Winston helping to run the show, making sure everyone's got their head on straight. Anyway, they get that last call and it's emotional (at least for us watching it), because they (we) know it's the last time. HOWEVER, (cue the admiral) it's a trap! The paranormal forces realize this is their last chance to do something to stop them or else NOWHERE will be safe for them! They do something to the Original GBs to incapacitate them (kidnap them, throw them into some sort of paranormal coma, etc.) When they go missing/out of commission, the GB Inc. grand opening is postponed and the team being trained to take over the original post (I'll call it NY-1) goes into action to figure out what's going on. They uncover possibly the greatest paranormal threat ever to mankind. As the OGB's try to fight back from their current situation, the new NY-1 squad (of course with help from Janine guiding from her wealth of knowledge gathered from years with the team) starts to unravel the mystery/ mastermind behind the forthcoming paranormal menace.
.....(insert awesome plot stuff).....
It ends with a last ditch attack from every available malevolent phantom on earth taking action against their biggest threat. Reports would come in and Janine would take the initiative, calling everyone into emergency action from the NY-1 HQ. This is where we'd get a killer montage of all Ghostbusters crews all over the world fighting back! Ectos blazing streets in London, Tokyo, France, Russia, Africa, America! GBs of all ethnicities holding back ghouls and filling traps non stop! GBs busting up into houses to stuff Boogiemen back into closets, forming perimeters around graveyards, throwing down with evil spirits in the streets! Ghosts of all different kinds from different places according to the local legends of the area.
We'd see cool new equipment like the garbage truck traps seen in RGB and EGB (of course given that slightly more grounded movie touch). Of course, when the big main villain is uncovered, the OGBs would wake up/ are woken up (new smart kid spends time working on an invention Egon didn't finish and finishes it, using it to wake them up/bring them back?) and they would come back in time to take him down as the new GBs hold off the other ghosts.
It would end with GB Inc. opening. That way, if they wanted to not do anymore movies, at least the story ended on a great note: The OGBs are still active in the company and there are now Ghostbusters watching the shadows all over the planet, so that whatever is in the darkness stays there, otherwise, they have a nice place for them.
OR, they could continue the story in either more films featuring the NY-1 team with cameos by the OGBs, or maybe even a live action TV series like CSI, where you could have GB: Dallas, GB: SanDiego, GB:PHOENIX (yes!), GB: London, GB: Tokyo, GB: WHEREVER!!! (I think a cool, creepy GB series set in southern Louisiana around the swamps would be SWEET. One of the guys on their team is an old guy who talks like a cajun and doesn't actually bust, but knows EVERYTHING about the local legends, like a walking Tobin's Spirit Guide for their team...and they have an Ecto-air boat [haha j/k!])
I thought it'd be cool to let the newer GBs shine for alot of the movie, but let the originals have the last big take down of their careers. Plus, since Winston seems like the "hands on" guy of the team, if they went the TV series route, Winston could pop up every now and then in each series to make sure the respective offices were functioning properly and to do training and inspection, so on. Maybe even Ray could do a cameo or 2.
TBH, I never liked the going to hell idea THAT much. Yeah, it'd be an ok story, but you'd have to be very careful about the ending. If they "bust the devil" I'd almost expect God to reach down and say "thanks for the help guys!" I'd like to see more of a concentration on ghosts that can be worn down and trapped rather than demons. They are first and foremost "GHOSTbusters", and although they've become sort of "the guys that deal with weird stuff", I'd like to see their (possibly) last film remind us of why we came to know them in the first place. Fighting Satan seems a little hamfisted, and I think it'd be cool to see them come up with a crazy plan to try and trap whtever it is they're fighting. Afterward, one of the newbies wonders if they just put a dent in their job security and then someone else says "nah, as long as bad people keep dying, we've got a job to do" (or something like that?). End with a montage of GB inc running smoothly with the original Ray Parker Jr. version of the song playing (save a remix/ cover for the mid-movie montage of the newbies investigating just what is going on).
Also, I had the idea that one of the recruits should be a college kid who has been running Ray's shop ever since GBs got back into action in GB2 and he couldn't spend as much time there. After years of hard work and loyalty running Ray's Occult, he gets the ultimate promotion (preferably played by Bill Hader).
I've got some more thoughts too. I might post more later.
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As the light turns green and they start to move a phantom semi truck (complete with trailer) rockets past them, nearly clipping the front of the car. As they sit dumbfounded and frightened the ghostbuster theme song begins to play and a familiar sound is heard, the siren of an ectomobile as it shoots past in hot pursuit of the ghost truck. The couple looks at each other and then the camera cuts to the actual chase.
Hey Ghostbuster J, I really like the car chase idea. The closest we've ever come to seeing Ecto-1 "do something" in the movies was the deleted scene from GB2 where Ray is posessed (which we've never actually seen). Also, the road spikes idea is really keeping with the whole "blue-collar ghost-catching equipment " vibe of the series. Really cool stuff!
JackIvyGB, I really dig your idea about a live GB series ala CSI, especially the Louisiana idea. I've recently started watching 'Supernatural' and they actually manage to make good use of a lot of American folklore and urban legends, kind of like what you've described here. I can say, I'd definitely watch your Ghostbusters show!
Oh yeah, and I also agree that while parts of "Ghostbusters Go To Hell" sounded... uh, neat... it never did sit too well with me. Not only does the boys vs. the Devil seem a little over the top, but I feel like they already really hit us over the head with the whole "New York is a crummy place but boy do we love it" idea in GB2. Plus, I've always enjoyed in the movies how otherworldly and "alien" the ghosts always seemed (which always contrasted nicely with the grounded nature of the Ghostbusters). From the smaller ghosts, which always seemed almost animalistic, to Gozer and Vigo, they all seemed to come from a whole different world. The stories I've heard about "Ghostbusters Go To Hell" sounded way too much like Hell is just a comically tweaked version of the real world, with the Devil being a sinister guy in red pajamas. Meh...
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Thanks man! I actually finally sat down and read your idea (when I posted, it was in a hurry as I was going out the door) and I really liked it! I could actually visualize it really well in my mind, especially like the scenes with Ray at the meeting. I like the idea that GB has become really mundane and commercialized, and I'm sure nearly everyone on this forum would feel exactly like the new kid character you had!
On the subject of the live action shows, it's funny, cause I actually have stacks of ideas for that sort of stuff. I had a thought about something like a crew based in a place like around Atlanta or a place like Compton in California that would deal with the sort of ghosts and ghost related incidents that had something to do with gangs or those related with them.
At one point, I think I had created a specific reactionary type of GB team, equipment, or person for what I reffered to in the stories as "post-life crimes".
Another example was I came up with a certain team of 2 whose job it was to have a smaller, more under cover Ecto car, almost like the police cars where you can't tell they're police cars, and their assignments would be stuff like being present at the executions of extremely violent criminals, just to make sure their transition to the afterlife is smooth. Otherwise, they serve as an immediate response team and take the spirit into custody. They stay covert though, so any friends or family of the criminal don't feel offended or anything like that by their presence.
I'm a big fan of Supernatural too. And CSI, specifically New York. I like shows like Ghost hunters, and even moreso Ghost Adventures on the travel channel too. I guess my creative side just sort of take s that stuff and whips it into one thing around my favorite subject!
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Not sure if this the thead for it, but I'd really like to see a couple more busts if GB3 gets made, instead of just the first bust-montage-last bust thing. I know there's not a lot of screen time for it, as i guess there wasn't for 1 and 2, but even showing like 2-3 minutes of the guys busting diffrenent ghosts would be cool.
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um that rocks!! I've had some ideas but they were small.
I can't seem to get them into a stream of consiousness so I commend you! This would be really fun to watch!
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bradleyanxiety wrote:
Not sure if this the thead for it, but I'd really like to see a couple more busts if GB3 gets made, instead of just the first bust-montage-last bust thing. I know there's not a lot of screen time for it, as i guess there wasn't for 1 and 2, but even showing like 2-3 minutes of the guys busting diffrenent ghosts would be cool.
Or you could have the extra busts during the montage. As oppsed to seeing the boys emerge from a building with a smoking trap why not see what happened seconds before that instead?
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I'm guessing the reasons for the way the montage was shot involve wanting to show that business was booming, but not having the time or budget to really show busts. It actually helped to only show the aftermath, so to speak, as that way they were able to show more scenes/cases than if they had taken the time to show the entire capture sequence.
I agree though, I'd like to see more actual busts, and I'm sure that with GB 3 being a highly anticipated high profile sequel, it'll probably get a bigger budget, and with CG capabilities in film nowadays, showing more actual busting is definitely within the realm of possibility this time around.
Remember the montage when the guys are trying to raise money to build the machine to save Egon in the "Egon's Ghost" episode of RGB? I'd love to see a montage more in lines with that. It's reminiscent of the film montages, but it definitely shows more actual "busting" (ie actually firing at ghosts and trapping in addition to running around with smoking traps and Ecto squealing around).
It's right at the beginning of this video, from 00:16-01:00-
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I think with more bust scenes it might move the montage along alittle smoother aswell. It could give the audience a more detailed outline how they capture and contain the entitys. Plus as stated the first and second movie never really got the chance to cut loose with that direction in filming both. And It'd also be a nifty way to bring in some RGB Ghost/Demon cameos to. It'd be cool to see movie based charactors from the series.
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