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So obviously the BIG news of the day is Sony's announcement that all prep on Spider-Man 4 has been dropped and they are rebooting the Spider-Man franchise... Now, as we all know, Spider-Man 4 was going to be Sony's big Summer 2011 tentpole film.

So is it just me or do you think the fact that Sony now has NO Summer 2011 tentpole film just highly increases the chances of Ghostbusters 3 being greenlighted in the very near future?

I'm starting to think that it makes a lot of sense for them to now fast track one of their few guaranteed franchises that also happens to be very close to being ready for pre-production...

Very interesting times indeed...

Hmmm.... interesting thought and like you said it makes sence moviemaker29 I know that i didn't care for the last spiderman movie and sony should realize that if they do go with Ghostbusters 3 they will have us ghostheads and others who liked the movie will go and see it.

Typical, less than five years since Spidey 3 came out, and they're already talking rebooting the franchise. Is this how things are going to go with Hollywood now? release three or so films, let a meagre amount of time pass by and then reboot the whole thing?

I know it worked for Hulk, any new film with an ounce of effort would've supassed Eric Banner's flick, but despite Spidey 3, this series has been overall great. Tobey was a good choice for Spidey/Peter, as was Williem Dafoe as Norman Osborn and Alfred Molina as Doc Ock.

Like Fantastic 4, I don't think the series needs to be rebooted... and I don't see it ending well if it does.

As for Ghostbusters 3, I wouldn't assume anything. This is the movie that's taken over a decade just to get greenlit.

What GB3 has a greenlight?;)

If this is Sony's plan maybe we will have an announcement at comic con..

Well we've waited this long for GB3 and if they can do it and do it right by summer 2011 then by all means go for it, but I don't want them to rush it in order to make it their summer tentpole film. And Kingpin, I totally agree with you, the whole reboot thing is stupid and annoying especially for Spider-man which as you mentioned is a great franchise overall.

This is because Marvel has their own studio now (since Iron Man) and has been trying to gain more control of it's films. While wanting to make sure each film (and licence) holds up on each their own, Marvel also wants their movie licences to convince you that all these characters exist in the same world. Which is why Hulk had the recent reboot, which will be leading to the eventual Avengers film (after Thor and Captain America release). I think it's a wonderful thing that Marvel now has more wieght it the developmental processes of their films because they understand their characters the best. Iron Man and Hulk are good films, and yes the first two Spiderman movies were fantastic though on the contrary. But Spiderman and X-Men share something in common. There were some continuity differences between the films and the comics that lead to some aweful results. The movies got worst and worst. I've been wanting them to reboot X-Men ever since the last nail was hammered into the casket with X-Men 3. Then the Wolverine movie (which I knew wouldn't be redeeming) dug up the casket and beat the body some more. I really felt Spiderman had a chance to turn around because the first two were epic and after the third one it sounded like Sam Raimi (the director) learned from his mistakes and said it's good to have limits and rules.

I have very mixed feelings about the Spider-Man franchise being rebooted so soon. I was honestly looking forward to seeing Raimi get one more shot at reminding everyone why they liked the first two. He had gave the films a great visual style and had an overall excellent cast. All I can hope is that with a reboot it may allow us to see some of the more obscure villains.

However, on the other hand, I think it will be terrible for the franchise if they start from square one again just to re-tread over what we've already seen. I doubt anyone wants to see another origin story. The other aspect of this reboot that has me cringing is Sony has said they will be bringing Peter Parker "back to high school." I really hope this doesn't mean they're just going to throw in some flavor of the month Twilight actor to appease the female audience and to seemingly "represent" the average teenager...or so Hollywood thinks.

Nevertheless, to get back on topic, if the Ghostbusters 3 script really is close to being completely polished by Aykroyd and Ramis and Ivan Reitman is obviously talking/thinking about pre-production, it seems that there would not be much left before getting a greenlight.

Come Comic-Con time, filming very well could be underway...sure it's optimistic after so many false starts on the film, but it looks like the planets are aligning right this time.

Sony is desperately in need of another strong franchise in their line-up because the Spider-Man and Robert Langdon franchises aren't going to be ready for 2011. This may be the perfect time for Ghostbusters and Men In Black.

I hope this is true. Spider-man ehh they need to do what the dark knight did, make it more real life and less comic bookish.

I tried to read through and didn't see it yet but Sony's official press release on the subject states thaat Spiderman has been delayed and it's slot for the 11'th of 2011 given to Thor, not GB3. Thor has a lot more going on for it right now than GB3 unfortunantly...like a cast.

There were creative differences between the team and Rami claims that Sony is trying to go a different dirrection with the franchise. So much so that essentially they're doing a reboot already as they state the film will take place during Peter Parker's High school years. So while this has nothing to do with GB3, I say it would warrent a pretty good casting thread in the off topic section.

I was thinking about this yesterday when I heard SM4 got scrapped. It's a possibility, but I'd say it's HIGHLY unlikely. We don't even have a cast yet, so there's no way filming could start in time for a summer 2011 release.

I agree that not having a solidified cast certainly does not place GB3 in a position to be filmed today, however if filming were to not begin until the summer, I'd say there's ample time from now until say June or July for adequate pre-production and casting. I would imagine with the four main actors already chosen, finding another set of four actors (or however many newbies there will be) should be possible by summer.

Even Thor has been adding cast members (and switching some out) within just a month of principle photography beginning.

While there's a TON of work left, I wouldn't say Summer 2011 is out of the question.

MIcheal Cera to play Peter Parker!

Absolutely not. Batman worked because he was a man empowered with technology. It wouldn't work with Spider-Man, nor would I want it to. The first two films are a testement to how to do it right.

As for this talk of Peter going back to High School, it sounds like it has Quesada's fingerprints all over it.

^ God in hell no.

I only hate a small percentage of actors/actresses and robert pattinson is one of them, along with jake gyllenhall and tom cruise


I have no clue why sony is doing this, i see no reason to reboot the series at all, this decision was completely pointless, like specifying your order to go in a drive thru

does no king kong 2 = ghostbusters 3 for 2011?

jesus. you have very flawed logic. stop searching google for ghostbusters 3 please.

I may be alone here, but I liked Spiderman 3.

I'm with ya. I had some gripes. It was a lot of drama and people crying(one of the main complaints I remember) but that's what Spidey was about I thought, not just fighting villains but trying to keep his job and personal life from falling apart in the process...having to deal with his life still and how being Spider-Man interfered with it.

They tried to cram it all in, I don't mind the emo Parker or the street dancing, I can understand some stuff being exaggerated. Hell it's a comic book. I thought Sandman stole the show. Wasn't a big fan of the Sandman huge monster. Venom's velociraptor screech got on my nerves. Wasn't a big fan of Topher Grace as Eddie Brock/Venom, he was okay but I would've not kept having his face come out every 2 seconds/had a dual voice effect similar to the cartoon/had himself refer to himself as "We" I can't remember if he did or not offhand.

Basically I thought the cartoon got Venom right. Overall I enjoyed the theater experience seeing it and other than some little things, I thought it was okay with all of what they tried to cram in. Didn't care much for the woman reporter toward the end, that's my last complaint

I agree completely.



How about you stop searching GBFans for GB3 news if you're so bothered. It's the exact same thing. All the news on google ends up here, and here you are first in line as always to cry about it like you didn't click on the link yourself to read it like everyone else. All you've been doing is griping for at least as long as I've been a member. Sure, some of the threads are "pointless". You whining about it every chance you get doesn't improve the thread in any way, shape, or form. You become more unbearing then the thread itself with your relentless negetivity and bashing towards the other members. Some threads are "pointless" but on the contrary some of the threads have been interesting as well. What do you expect? It's a forum! You're going to have kids and adults here talking about everything under the sun that has to do with ghostbusters here. If that sounds like something that isn't for you, that may be something to think about before you sign in. Threads here have taught me that Sigourney went from "I'm not interested at all" to "I'm considering it if I like the script". I find that fact for instance interesting and informative weather or not you do and that's okay. Just as some may find a topic like "No Spiderman 4 may increase Sony's interest in GB3". Unlike your lowsy attempt of an insult- King Kong has nothing to do with Sony while Spiderman does.

I completely agree with that, the film was not that bad, just some bits weren't right which let it down

When i heard the news i thought of great we'll get Zac Efron as peter and get Spider-Man 4: The High School Musical
and i still fear having a very bad reboot in a twilight/HSM sort of cheezy format dumbed down for "the average teen"

The only sane reason i can think of a reboot is, they've killed off characters and in Spider-Man that doesn't often happen, and if it does its only comic book death and I think sony had a problem with trying to revive characters convincingly.
I always had a problem with Spider-Man killing his enemies in the films, it meant they were restricted on plot lines they could emulate into a movie format.

I suspect they will go with an Ultimate Spider-Man format for 4 now, which i'm not too pleased on as i didn't like the origins of some characters, venom and Carnage for one

but I doubt this will effect GB3 other films are more likely to get pushed forward, unless there is a large fan interest and its got a decent script ready and available ready for production

I hope it didn't inconvenience you too much to go out of your way to post a reply to this thread simply to insult someone rather than actually contributing something.

I started this thread simply because of some thought provocative speculation that some members here might find interesting to discuss in light of this week's news about the Spider-Man franchise restructuring. If this thread doesn't interest you then I'm sure there are plenty of others that will.

Now why don't you go search Google yourself to find out that the King Kong property has absolutely nothing to do with Sony/Columbia Pictures and take a few minutes to think about what you're saying before you throw out a completely irrelevant insult next time.

i was illustrating that the logic of a cancelled spidey 4 does not mean ghostbusters 3. if you are going by gb3 news any where, you may notice none of it matches up.
but hey, i live in the real world and can figure out information on my own. you'll be disappointed when no spiderman 4 means no ghostbusters 3.
conan obrien might not do the tonight show anymore = he's in GB3!

He's not entirely wrong - summer's are planned out years in advance. Whole fiscal years are structured to produce, advertise, and generally push certain key movies that the studio feel will ensure a return for stockholders. Spider-man 4 was definitely that movie for 2011, but if it's gone, then Sony will be looking at what will replace it, and anything that's further along in the gearing up phase will be a good bet.

Which is funny, because Ghostbusters one got made under similar circumstances - Columbia was in a weird place, wanted Ghostbusters for 1984, resulting in a very short production period before its Summer release.

I'm not saying it's a sure thing either, but it's a solid thought. It can only HELP Ghostbusters 3, that's for sure.

Proton, fair enough.

I absolutely agree that just because Spider-Man 4 has been scrapped this certainly does not mean that GB3 will see the light of day. I'm on board with everyone who feels that they won't believe it until they see set photos and production stills. After all, this has been a roller coaster ride of a franchise for fans to keep up with and with a multitude of false starts and rumors.

However I also did not simply throw some random film's cancellation having a potentially positive impact on GB3 out there for the hell of it. As castewar acknowledges above, there is some solid logic behind studios having a "Plan B" or "insurance policy" when it comes to summer films and the revenue they provide. I don't mean to say that GB3 was "Plan B" all along, but it may be in development at the right time to benefit from Sony's recent developments...and I highly doubt Sony will go into Summer 2011 without a tentpole film. It's too valuable a time of year not to have a stakehorse in the running.

That's all I'm trying to say.

Not trying to create news or buzz or anything else...it is just something interesting to think about and discuss with the other GB fans here that also might find it interesting.