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GB Ty wrote:
GBRD71 wrote:
In the end my attitude towards GB3 is the same as my attitude towards the game: ever hopeful, ever optimistic, but always realistic. .
Realistic?
It's not gonna happen, it's been 25 years.
The guys are old. They're probably not gonna be in the movie, that's being realistic.
If it does get made there will probably be a new team, and it won't count as a GB movie for me. Again being realistic.
I don't want my heart broken, so I'm against GB3. I recommend the same to all of you.
I meant realistic in the sense that it's not going to be everything people want it to be. Like you said, it's been 25 years, it's impossible for it to be just like the first 2 movies.
The guys are old, which is why a "passing the torch" concept isn't bad, if done well; hell it's the only way to go.. I don't care if we don't have the whole team back, like you said, they're old, it just wont work like it could've once upon a time.
And not liking the movie because it has a new team...so I take it you don't care for any of the fan films that have been made then?
There are very valid fears towards this movie being made. I know that I share some of those fears. But in the end, what it all boils down to is fear. Everyone is afraid it won't live up to what they think it should be, or that the this movie will destroy the franchise. If the movie gets made and it flops, that's gonna be a big bummer, but are you really going to tell me you'll stop being a fan? I know I plan on being a ghosthead til I become a ghost myself.
But knowing that Ramis and Aykroyd are still involved is enough for me.
I waited my whole life for a GB game that could do the franchise justice, and it finally happened. And for a long time that seemed less likely than a third movie.
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Hii, i'm new to this forum. I just don't understand why fans are basing the film already? Some fans can't exept change, Change happens, deal with it. If you can't you have a major problem. I am absolutely certain GB3 will indeed get made, and will be in 3D. Hoping for an Official press release soon but i wouldnt hold my breathe to be honest. Venkman as a ghost, i wasnt keen on the idea aty first but it kinda grew on me. Now it will be interesting to see how they do this. I reckon it is going to Rock!.
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GB Ty wrote:
It's not gonna happen, it's been 25 years.
The project isn't any further in development then it was when Dan was writing it. So there is some validity to this statement.
GB Ty wrote:
The guys are old. They're probably not gonna be in the movie, that's being realistic..
If the project were to move forward I'm sure the guys would be in it. But when it comes down to how much screen time it does just come down to a big " " at this point.
GB Ty wrote:
If it does get made there will probably be a new team, and it won't count as a GB movie for me. Again being realistic..
Understandable feelings only because I can personally relate with my reception of the EGB cast. I speak for myself personally when I say I can't stand the EGB 'busters. They seemed like a far-cry from the original RGB. Not just because they were different but because they just didn't come off as inspired to me. But while saying that there are people who genuinely embrace EGB's cast. A new team of ghostbusters in GBlll will only reflect the diversity of reactions to these characters. While I dislike EGB I also don't think it's absolute yet that I would dislike every potential Ghostbuster.
GB Ty wrote:
I don't want my heart broken, so I'm against GB3. I recommend the same to all of you.
Nor do I. Especially with Ghostbusters. Ha you know, when you said that it made me think of someone who has a crush but doesn't want to ask the other person out because they may get hurt. I'm not saying that person is you, or me, or anyone specific. I'm also not saying it's the perfect metaphor. But get this- it made me think of a simularity. It's safe to say many of us have an adoration for Ghostbusters for reasons that are shared and reasons that are individual. WIth that personalized connection we have natural and individual reactions. Two of the potential reactions are "to take risks and see where things go" out of curiosity/excitement. The other potential reaction is to "protect, distance ourselves, and be safe" to preserve ourselves from the hurt of unreached expectations. Neather reaction is "wrong or right". They are each valid reactions. Each reaction has a personal validation to the individual for their own personal reasons.
So you have a loose demonstration of just two kinds of potential fans (I'm sure there's many other kinds). The kind that may or may not have hesitations but move forward none-the-less to see what happens due to their fondness of the franchise- They may just want more of what they love and don't see anything wrong with that. Then there are the fans that like things as they are, some maybe going as far as feeling things are perfect as is, and adding a film to the equation undoubtably will hurt that balance. Someone that is radical one way or the other may find others that feel differently to be unreasonable or even foolish. But it comes down to personal validation of the individuals reasons. Which again, is an opinion and not a "right or wrong" thing.
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I'm intrigued by the fact that there are people drawing such a line in the sand. I'm not saying people are wrong for not wanting GB3, I just want to hang to the hope that it can still be a worthy edition to the franchise. Give it a chance is all.
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If were so worried about everyone's age, then I think they should just have an animated series from the people who did the stylized game. That way, we could gain an even younger audience and not be worried by the age barrier. It could basically an updated version of RGB but with new recruits.
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Bort826GBWorld wrote:
If were so worried about everyone's age, then I think they should just have an animated series from the people who did the stylized game. That way, we could gain an even younger audience and not be worried by the age barrier. It could basically an updated version of RGB but with new recruits.
My idea since the game release was for them to go full cgi, and just have the guys voice act again. But that's not a bad idea either.
don't even bother with him man, he's just trolling.
GBRD71 wrote:
I'm sorry you're so easily influenced by others. You and your boyfriend are entitled to your opinion.
im sure its completely fine for you two to come into an anti gb3 thread and poo poo opinions just as valuable as yours but not for them to do the same here isnt it?
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I just think they should do a gb3 now, so say in like 7-10 years they dont do a remake of the original with new actors playing the chacacters. that would ruin it more then any gb3 ( good or bad) I also dont mind a full cgi movie like TMNT, with the guys doing the voice over.
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RedVirtue wrote:
GB Ty wrote:
If it does get made there will probably be a new team, and it won't count as a GB movie for me. Again being realistic..
Understandable feelings only because I can personally relate with my reception of the EGB cast. I speak for myself personally when I say I can't stand the EGB 'busters. They seemed like a far-cry from the original RGB. Not just because they were different but because they just didn't come off as inspired to me. But while saying that there are people who genuinely embrace EGB's cast. A new team of ghostbusters in GBlll will only reflect the diversity of reactions to these characters. While I dislike EGB I also don't think it's absolute yet that I would dislike every potential Ghostbuster.
RedVirtue, thanks for agreeing with me. But I'm only against a live movie adaption for a new team. In actuality I hate RGB, and I freaken love EGB.
GBRD71 wrote:
And not liking the movie because it has a new team...so I take it you don't care for any of the fan films that have been made then?
On the contrary, I love GB fan films. But how the frig are fan film makers suppose to get Bill Murry, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, and Ernie Hudson for their fan film? They don't necessarily have the power to make a GB3-Esq movie, or have original actors, filming locations, etc in said film. But Hollywood has the power to do all of that, if the actors wanted to be in GB3, they could be, but Hollywood could deem them to be too old and bla bla bla.
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Hi, i'm new to this forum. I just don't understand why fans are basing the film already? Some fans can't exept change, Change happens, deal with it. If you can't you have a major problem. I am absolutely certain GB3 will indeed get made, and will be in 3D. Hoping for an Official press release soon but i wouldnt hold my breathe to be honest. Venkman as a ghost, i wasnt keen on the idea aty first but it kinda grew on me. Now it will be interesting to see how they do this. I reckon it is going to Rock!.
If you called your self a real Ghostbusters fan you wouldn't accept change too. Who are the Ghostbusters? Peter Venkman, Ray Stantz, Egon Spengler, and Winston Zeddemore. They where the freaken Ghostbusters in both movies, they where the freaken Ghostbusters in RGB, and the video game. They ARE the Ghostbusters. It's not that I can't accept change, it's just that I know for a god given fact no one else can fill these guys' shoes.
And trust me, nothing is gonna happen anytime soon. Hell, there'll probably be rumors still for a GB3 25 years from now. Oh, by the way welcome to the forum.
And PS, any of you that think Venkman as a ghost is a good idea....WTF?! YOU GUYS ARE FREAKEN INSANE, AND I WANT ALL OF YOU TO DIE!
Posting an image that states an argument is invalid doesn't magically change the fact that your love of EGB and hatred for a third movie is an enormous contradiction.
My advice is to not grow balls until you know how to use them.
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Boomerjinks wrote:
Posting an image that states an argument is invalid doesn't magically change the fact that your love of EGB and hatred for a third movie is an enormous contradiction.
I don't regard the cartoons to be cannon. I love the cartoon for what it is. But it's shit compared to the movies.
I'm not sold on Venkman being a ghost, but I'd still go see the movie. It is still a Ghostbusters movie and at worst there will be a few decent moments during the movie and maybe a great one. I'm happy with that, because in the end it is a new Ghostbusters movie. It isn't like the others are going to disappear or something.
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PeskyPoltergeist wrote:
I'm not sold on Venkman being a ghost, but I'd still go see the movie. It is still a Ghostbusters movie and at worst there will be a few decent moments during the movie and maybe a great one. I'm happy with that, because in the end it is a new Ghostbusters movie. It isn't like the others are going to disappear or something.
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This was originally posted in the anti-GBIII thread but since you guys seem to need a reason to doubt I'll repost. And again I'm not against GBIII in theory....it's in practice.
There's a reason I use my NYU film education in the non-hollywood ultra low budget film arena (meaning a reason in addtion to the fact that I suck) Hollywood makes movies for profit. They don't give a shit about art. They don't give a shit about vision. And they don't give a shit about a devoted fanbase if said fanbase population is lower (and it almost always is) then the generic mass market.
That is why remakes/reboots are so popular now.
Let's use a film shot in my area recently as an example....The Crazies. (Now playing at a theater near you) That movie was originally a George Romero flick (you know, the Night of the Living Dead guy) So the studio realizes that remakes in general, horror remakes in particular, are very popular with american audiences. They already own the rights to The Crazies. They can easily hire someone to re-write the script, cast, and film the remake and put it out in theaters to a profit. But wait! That's not all! The studio ALSO realizes there are fans of the original who HATE the idea of remakes they won't get their money right? WRONG! You simultaniously release a Special Edition DVD and Blu-Ray of the original and conquer BOTH markets. Happens all the time. Biggest horror one to do it recently was Friday the 13th which released the first 3 films in special edition for the theatrical release of the remake and the rest at the time of the remakes dvd release.
Granted a sequel is a different animal....or is it? Indiana Jones fans say no. The video game as awesome as it was, proved to the evildevilworshippingmegaconglomerates that Ghostbusters was a viable franchise and a sequel may be possible. The studio already holds the rights. They know that there is too much talent and box office draw in the main cast to not use them, but their age is a factor so it makes fiscal sense to "pass the torch to a new generation". That allows them to capitalize on both markets (original fans AND highschoolers) This was the attempt with Indiana Jones using Shia Labeouf and it will be the attempt here as well.
They will no doubt release a bluray 2 pack of GB1 and 2 around the time the trailer hits....they released the first movie with the game for the same reason, basic industry marketing.
and THAT'S why I'm against Ghostbusters III. The first movie was an honest artistic effort, the second was effects based but still had heart, and the third (if it happens) is about lining Sony's pockets.
If it weren't Danny would be writing it.
Will I go see it? Sure I will. But I expect it to be a bigger dissapointment than Star Wars Episode 1.
And they could prove me wrong, they really could.
But I HIGHLY doubt it.
In fact I'll still be surprised if it even gets made.
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PeskyPoltergeist wrote:
I'm not sold on Venkman being a ghost, but I'd still go see the movie. It is still a Ghostbusters movie and at worst there will be a few decent moments during the movie and maybe a great one. I'm happy with that, because in the end it is a new Ghostbusters movie. It isn't like the others are going to disappear or something.
Venkman being a ghost is ironic, and ridiculous. It’s a stupid, and a lame idea, period. He’s part of the Ghostbusters, I don’t see why idiots would like to see him as a ghost. I don’t think it would be funny, hell it won’t be funny. Again anyone who wants to see Venkman as a ghost - WTF?! YOU GUYS ARE FREAKEN INSANE, AND I WANT ALL OF YOU TO DIE!
chase wrote:
That is why remakes/reboots are so popular now.
I don't give a damn why they're popular. A remake is something that shouldn’t even be thought about, at all.
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Chace wrote:
and THAT'S why I'm against Ghostbusters III. The first movie was an honest artistic effort, the second was effects based but still had heart, and the third (if it happens) is about lining Sony's pockets.
I think Bill would agree with you about the first two films to an extent.. When it comes down to most big Hollywood films it's safe to say profit is always the goal for everyone involved. When it comes to GB3, I expect some awesome special effects. That's a given. But if the story isn't interesting and if there isn't a connection with the characters I wont be happy.
This video is from October 14, 2009. From hearing what Bill has to say about his role in GB3 I feel like I can be comfortable with his decision. Weather he decides to go for it or pass, it sounds like it would be with good warant. He doesn't want to make another one JUST to make another one. Thank God. I think he'll look at the script critically and with decent judgment. So weather or not Bill goes for it in the end, will be a marker for myself on my expectations for the film. Needless to say, I'll see the film once either way. But if it's good, oh boy I'll watch it countless times as I have the first two.
Based on this video that was released in November, 6, 2009 it seems like three of the guys (Ivan, Dan, and Harold) are really poking at the writers to create something everyone would agree to jump on board with.
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I am a little alarmed on how seriously some people are taking their opinions. I think people should keep their minds open, as very few things are absolute. But as for the original subject at hand...
How do I feel about Ghostbusters 3?
Truth be told, my feelings are complicated. Do I want a Ghostbusters 3? I think it would be more accurate to say I want a new Ghostbusters film. I feel the franchise has passed the point of a direct sequel. And I believe it would be difficult to do a movie 9at least a live-action movie) that doesn't involve the original four taking a supporting role (narratively speaking) while a new team takes the lead.
However, my mind has also been mulling over the possibility of a reboot (and yes we all know how a lot of fans feel about reboots). As an old-school fan I cringe at the thought of what some heartless hollywood director would do to my beloved boys in grey with a remake. Though, the filmmaker in me also knows the a Ghostbusters reboot done with the right writers, director and modern special effects has the potential to be truly amazing.
When it really comes down to it I know two things.
1. To quote a previous fan, I do not want my heart broken.
2. There is so much potential still left within the franchise. A new Ghostbusters movie could truly be epic. And I think/hope that we have not heard the last from the boys in grey.
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if you spend all your time looking for flaws you are garunteed to find them...
That being said... those that are intent on hating this film, will hate it, no matter how good it turns out in the end...
most of those that await it... will probably enjoy it... assuming it's not a flop, which any movie can be, before it proves itself not to be...
I mean in all honesty... the third film, should one be made will never be as good as the first film... in fact Ghostbusters 2 was not even as good as the original, yet for many (All haters left at the kiddie table) it still turned out ok.
Realisticly speaking there will always be haters... they will always exist... so if they wish to go on being pessimistic about the movie... as Mayor Lenny would say... paraphrased of course... "Being miserable and having a pessimistic attitude about the new movie, is every forum geeks god given right."
I for one just choose not to pay the miserable one any mind.
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