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AJ Quick wrote: On a side note.
Isn't this die-cast? Aren't the regular ones plastic? Metal isn't cheaper either. Nope, the regular ones are die-cast also. Some have metal chassis while a few are plastic. If I were to guess, the amout of plastic that they use per vehicle vs the metal, the plastic would be the more costly material. Just my guess from a raw material point of view.
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Zander Yurami wrote: Maybe I will get my buddies to get me a few. Then I could sell them for $60 each Maybe you should sell them for less than $5. After all you just said: Zander Yurami wrote: Yeah, it looks cool, but still not worth even $5 So who would be crazy enough to pay $60 if you say its not worth it? Oh yeah.. that's right... someone else. Zander Yurami wrote: They are making money on these, and they just wanna milk it some more with this overpriced one at SDCC. Do you have any idea how much a selling space at SDCC costs? $5000. And you have to give a percentage of all sales to SDCC and pay taxes. Not to mention the area needs to be staffed... And I think Mattel, or Diamond Comics is even paying to have an Ecto-1 on display. That's not cheap.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 12:46 pm |
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I might be able to pay $60, $80, $100 for a 1/24-1/21 Ecto, but not a Hot Wheels car. At the end of the day, thats all it is, a cool Hot Wheels car.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 1:17 pm |
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Zander Yurami wrote: We had the Ecto down here for the game release, so that doesn't impress me. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. You are the most ungrateful piece of s**t on GBFans. I forgot everything is owed to you, and only you.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 1:37 pm |
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It does look cool, but $20 is a bit much, plus the inflated price on eBay for all the people that can't go to SDCC, I'm definately going to have to pass on this one...
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 1:46 pm |
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Dan AKA wrote: I'm going nuts over this thing. My only real regret is I wont be able to pick one up. I would love to own this for my desk or a book shelf, and for 20 bucks? What the hell, sign me up. Looks great to me.
If any of you killjoys are going to SDCC and don't want to pick one up, I'll gladly pay 30 to you to cover shipping one to me. Couldn't you put the more accurate larger Hallmark ornament on display instead? I think I recall you saying you picked one up last year, right? Plus you also wouldn't have to worry as much about someone snagging it as a higher priced "collectable" either. I'm not trying to be a killjoy, either. Mattel s, IMHO. First, they fixed what they realized was incorrect. Then, instead of just making it a redeco release, they decided to make it only available at SDCC, and THEN they raised the price on it 2000 percent. If anyone has been the killjoy here, it's been Mattel.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 1:56 pm |
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AJ Quick wrote: Zander Yurami wrote: We had the Ecto down here for the game release, so that doesn't impress me. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. You are the most ungrateful piece of s**t on GBFans. I forgot everything is owed to you, and only you. Oh yeah, we aren't allowed to say anything bad about the GB Toy line...whatever Dont get your panties in a twist because someone doesn't like mattel's new lump of crap. All I said was having the Ecto there doesn't impress me because I've seen it before.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 2:08 pm |
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I think it's been effectively established that quite a few people don't think it's worth the price tag. I'm certainly within that camp... no need to keep on stating it, folks.
I'd much rather they kept the roof rack black, rather than paint it silver. It'd still look reasonable enough with the red, green and (presumably) yellow applications.
I too hope it has the logo on the rear door, seeing as they've painted the inside edges of the tail fins.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 2:48 pm |
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Meh, I'll pass on this and stick with my custom (thanks for the compliments guys). To be completely honest, this is exclusive how they should have released the car in the first place.
I don't know if it's just AJ or if it's actually Mattel doing this, but it's really pathetic for the number 2 toy company in the world to be constantly be bellyaching about the cost of doing business. Hasbro doesn't do this. It's poor business and makes the company look weak. This is a capitalist society, so the people buying the product are the ones who have the voice to say what they like and what they don't like and will speak with their money. It's not the other way around. Telling them to shut up and be grateful for what ever the corporate overlords dish up is wrong.
Also, AJ, with all due respect, please stop telling people not to criticize Mattel or their products, we are their customers, we have every right to discuss the products, we are the ones paying our hard earned cash on this stuff. Maybe follow your own advice, play nice and stop referring to the members of this community as stupid and ungrateful, as you have in a couple of recent threads. Without the members on here there would be no community and you would not be in with Mattel like you are now, so please, a little more respect for the folks who built you up and less defending the Corporate masters who run out the occasional carrot on a stick.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 3:28 pm |
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I like the repaint even though it might be a little heavy on the silver. But we also don't know when that photo was taken and as we all know actual product may vary.
I'll be at SDCC and I'm grabbing all the exclusives.
You guys can complain about the price until you're blue in the face but it is what it is. No one is forcing you to buy them, you don't have to own every single item with a No-Ghost logo slapped on it.
After 26 years aren't you just glad that you have the option to still even think about owning some of this stuff?
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 3:30 pm |
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PeteVenkman_Jedi wrote: I don't know if it's just AJ or if it's actually Mattel doing this, but it's really pathetic for the number 2 toy company in the world to be constantly be bellyaching about the cost of doing business. They are just stating the facts. They cannot afford to put 5 Ecto-1 cars in every case of Hot Wheels. That would not be feasible, practical or financially viable. Mattel is a business. They are in the market to make money. They do that by making the best item they can for as inexpensively as they can. You want better? Stop complaining about how much it costs in the first place. They aren't going to make it better. PeteVenkman_Jedi wrote: Also, AJ, with all due respect, please stop telling people not to criticize Mattel or their products, we are their customers, we have every right to discuss the products, we are the ones paying our hard earned cash on this stuff. You guys do it with no respect intended. Do you understand that they have people working themselves to death to develop and manufacture these products for you? You guys have made it very clear that you won't be buying this thing. (And I would like to point out again.. that most all of you have no way to purchase these unless you go to SDCC). But you go on further to attack the company that is spending their own money to make these things. As if it should just be given to you. They are the ones working hard. Go spend your "hard" earned cash on something else... and unless you have something constructive to say.. don't say anything at all. You are ruining it for the rest of us who are grateful and do show respect. PeteVenkman_Jedi wrote: Maybe follow your own advice, play nice and stop referring to the members of this community as stupid and ungrateful, as you have in a couple of recent threads. Without the members on here there would be no community and you would not be in with Mattel like you are now, so please, a little more respect for the folks who built you up and less defending the Corporate masters who run out the occasional carrot on a stick. I forgot that it was you guys after all who worked so hard to develop this site. I guess it was all just supposed to be given to you, just like these Hot Wheels. You are ignorant and ungrateful. Vincenzo330 wrote: After 26 years aren't you just glad that you have the option to still even think about owning some of this stuff? Apparently the stuff just happens and just appears out of thin air... with price tags too large.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 3:46 pm |
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Aj, I don't have to take this abuse from you, I got hundreds of people dying to abuse me. If you really believe I am ignorant or ungrateful, you really have a lot of growing up to do, buddy. As for me I got better things to do than sit here and be insulted by you.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 3:54 pm |
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Quote: Do you understand that they have people working themselves to death to develop and manufacture these products for you? Youve got it the other way around. Im sure the unwanted female China babies thank us for being spared the alternatives offered by their Communist government. 
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 4:21 pm |
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Kingpin wrote: no need to keep on stating it, folks. Bolded for extra emphasis, because it seems it wasn't quite clear enough the first time I wrote it. To be honest, neither side probably needs to cool down and take a look from the other's perspective. On the one hand, some people are going more then the neccesary mile in order to register their disappointment at this, and some of the other products. Of course, a lot of us won't even get a chance to own one of the "Collector" Ecto-1s as we won't be able to visit SDCC, or are willing to justify the cost for a Hotwheels car. On the other, some have gone a bit too far in dissuading negative criticism. Some of the products have been great, and some of the cricisim idiotic, or far fetched. Few will argue that the Minimates aren't awesome, that the Stay Puft bank rocks, and that 6 inch figure line, despite a few very small issues, is one of the best things to come out in years. However, the recent releases have had a few prominent misses. The Ecto-1 licence plate being released by Diamond is absolute crap, the Mego figure is a limited interest item... and the decision to release that line in stores, and leave the vastly superior Movie Legends figures as an online-only perchase is a big mistake, no doubt about it. If you can't take any more of the Mattel support, or the product complaint, go outside and get a breather.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 4:56 pm |
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this makes me think of the people buying the 25th sdcc minimate for 30 bucks on ebay , so glad i can resist temptation , these things are pure rip off, 20 bucks for a dollar item? Yes i know they hafta pay royalties but shit 20 bucks!
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 7:03 pm |
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20 bucks, not 20,000 bucks.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 7:55 pm |
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Gareee wrote: Dan AKA wrote: I'm going nuts over this thing. My only real regret is I wont be able to pick one up. I would love to own this for my desk or a book shelf, and for 20 bucks? What the hell, sign me up. Looks great to me.
If any of you killjoys are going to SDCC and don't want to pick one up, I'll gladly pay 30 to you to cover shipping one to me. Couldn't you put the more accurate larger Hallmark ornament on display instead? I think I recall you saying you picked one up last year, right? Plus you also wouldn't have to worry as much about someone snagging it as a higher priced "collectable" either. I'm not trying to be a killjoy, either. Mattel s, IMHO. First, they fixed what they realized was incorrect. Then, instead of just making it a redeco release, they decided to make it only available at SDCC, and THEN they raised the price on it 2000 percent. If anyone has been the killjoy here, it's been Mattel. I have three Hallmark Ecto-1s. One to keep boxed, one on display and one for the old Christmas tree. This does not change that I want one of these.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 8:25 pm |
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Good God, I really cannot believe we have people COMPLAINING ABOUT NEW GHOSTBUSTERS MERCHANDISE BEING PRODUCED. Ten years ago most of you would have paid $20 for a Hot Wheels Ecto because Ghostbusters wasn't going through the reinassance it is now. And even still, Ghostbusters is a 25+ year old franchise and this heat will eventually die down. And when that happens and their are now more Comic-Con exclusives or figures at all, what will you bitch about then? The figures they DIDN'T release? Will you still bitch about the price or the sculpts? Why do so many of you have this sense of entitlement about Ghostbusters merchandise?
While it's true Mattel runs a Business and therefore needs profit, they don't sit around thinking about how to screw people out of their money (sorry to burst your bubble) The fact that this stuff even exists is amazing to me. I was born in 1992 and spent the better part of my life with NO GHOSTBUSTERS MERCHANDISE at all. And yet when we are given a toy line and several other products, most of the comments are a bunch of older guys bitching because they're not perfect.
Before someone says it, yes I am a fanboy who will buy almost anything that has to do with Ghostbusters, but so what? It doesn't make me more or less of a fan. I happen to see spending the money is a way of showing the franchise is viable and letting these companies who make these products know that Ghostbusters is a viable franchise to produce. You may think that your little bitching and protesting by now buying this stuff hurts the franchise in the long run. Have any one of you Trekkie-style whiners ever thought about it this way; if companies like Mattel see Ghostbusters as a profit-maker, then you get your Sideshow and Hot Toys interested in making those products. If you look at companies like Sideshow most if not all of their products started out being made as toy lines by other companies (Star Wars by Kenner, Marvel by Toy Biz, etc.)
So go ahead, keep complaining about everything new Ghostbusters related coming out and keep you pretentious egos high up where they are. You are not owed everything but like spoiled children you just whine.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 9:21 pm |
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Thank you for proving my point. You look so cool and intelligent with you funny little picture. If I wanted a joke I'd follow you into the bathroom and watch you take a leak.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 10:01 pm |
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You're not a loser, although I am sure some others on this site would say otherwise.
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Posted: July 3rd, 2010, 10:12 pm |
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AmandaAnn wrote: I would pay $20 to get one for Haley... guess I'm a loser like that... If you couldnt get her a normal one, I might have one I can send to her. No need to waste $20 on that one if she is gonna play with it.
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Zander Yurami wrote: AmandaAnn wrote: I would pay $20 to get one for Haley... guess I'm a loser like that... If you couldnt get her a normal one, I might have one I can send to her. No need to waste $20 on that one if she is gonna play with it. We actually found one of the other ones from one of the other guys on here. Thanks tho. I figure since she plays with that one we could just add this one to her collection. 
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I'd like to point out that Mattel not only pays for the royalty rights to Sony for these items, but also to the General Motors company that owns and is very controlling with the Cadillac "image."
The comic books made a few years back, RGB, and XGB all featured a less accurate Ecto because the license for the Cadillac. If you remember the 88 MPH comic, they stated the accurate Ecto-1 was a significant portion of their cost because of this.
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damn! id rather spend 20 for you to paint my ecto
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Dr.D wrote: It doesn't make me more or less of a fan.[.quote] Neither does critiquing/complaining about an item. Although it's been looked upon largely negatively of late, nobody seems to have remarked upon how much discussion has been generated because not everyone has been as impressed with a given object. Dr.D wrote: Thank you for proving my point. You look so cool and intelligent with you funny little picture. If I wanted a joke I'd follow you into the bathroom and watch you take a leak. Uncalled for and unneccesary. Stupid as that drawing was, the best response is to not rise to it and then rebuttle with an even worse insult.
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