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kevinj319 wrote:
d_osborn wrote:
...and seriously... i would love to konw what kind of software is used for that audio cleanup. soundtrack pro in the final cut suite can't handle that sort of stuff. my studio is next to a hot rod shop... and as sound-isolated as we are, it's still a pain in the ass.
When dealing with a phone call, the quality is just not there. A typical phone conversation is sampled at around 350 cycles to 3,500 cycles per second. This is to save bandwidth for the phone company and get more calls on the same line. Normal human hearing is something like 20 cycles to 20,000 cycles per second. You can try to make it sound better with software but you can only work with what is there, not add information that doesn't exist. That's like taking a badly encoded wma and claiming you're going to "clean it up" with software to return it to CD quality. Or taking a 100x100 avatar image and blowing it up for your desktop background.
Technology exists to patch in to a recording studio via ISDN, usually with a recording studio on each end. One would visit a properly-equipped recording studio in city A, which would connect to the main studio in city B. It would be a broadband stream, not a phone connection through the telephone company. If Murray "phoned in" lines from Hawaii, it was probably done with a system similar to this.
I kind of felt that way, but that may also be the fault of the voice director... it's their responsibility to make sure they get a good take of all the audio.
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My feelings of GB 3..
I feel it should be funny, make me laugh, and have a good interesting story and should STAR Bill, Dan, Ernie and Harold as leading roles and the 'new recruits' being the supporting roles.
Oh, and they should get this rolling soon before one of them hit 70!
those are my only expectations, i'm not expecting it to be the next Citizen Kane, im expecting an entertaining, funny, and quotable blockbuster movie, and thats good enough for me.
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i said this on Proton Charging about the new Ernie "interview", he said they're 'waiting on a script they can agree on', which i assume means the Office writers keep churning out bad idea after bad idea, and all parties keep disapproving, which is why its taking so long for a final green light or a solid answer.
Since everyone's (the fans) been waiting for this movie since the late 90s, and both the project AND the production have been HIGHLY publicized, its a bit too late for Ivan, Dan, and Harold to just scrap the idea and forget about it, which kind of pushes the cast and crew into a corner.
The game was a success, and that was written by Dan and Harold, which is why i don't understand why Sony wants two new writers who wrote a big bomb ( Year One) to write one of their most anticipated sequels.
Dan said in an online interview, that the script was supposed to be commenced last spring. it's been 3 years, of hearing 'hope to be in production by the fall'.
i've heard rumors of Dan and Harold give a re-written/revitalizing to the final draft that the office writers turn in, but it seems that's taken a long time to do. Don't know why they just don't hand it over to them now and let them finish it.
So they better get something done quick, before its too late and they miss a big opportunity to make a comeback as a franchise and as stars.
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BatDan makes some good points there, especially about how Dan & Harold wrote a great game. Yeah, they did. So why not let them just write the new one?
Looking back I think they only punched up the original script written before they got involved. Whether that's true or not, the point remains that they could punch up the script written by Gene Stupnitsky & Lee Eisenberg and eventually make it their own, so to speak.
Stupnitsky and Eisenberg wrote Year One. I saw it, I didn't laugh. ....and now, they want to write GB3.
It is my understanding that although they were credited with it, Dan and Harold did not write the game. They did review and tweak the script after it was written.
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kevinj319 wrote:
It is my understanding that although they were credited with it, Dan and Harold did not write the game. They did review and tweak the script after it was written.
You are correct sir. Harold Ramis himself stated that the script was written by several writers, he and Dan just wrote off on it. That being said, I'm simply going to just continue to hope that when/if the movie goes through, the storyline will be decent, regardless of who writes it.
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Well regardless of whether Dan, Harold, Bill, Hitler, Jesus or whoever writes it, my point is the new writers have been taking a quite a long time to turn in their drafts, now i know it takes time to make something of quality, but its been 3 years since the proposed script writing process, and since then i haven't heard any positive feedback from the cast, "we need a script we can agree on" or Bill's countless rants on how bad the premise is, it just sounds to me that the writers are turning in bad ideas, and keeps getting sent back for better treatment, and since the studio is pushing for it, and even the casual fans are begging for it, its a bad idea to scrap the movie altogether.
i think they ( the new writers )just need to turn it to the right hands to finish it properly or they're gonna keep getting asked about GB3 untill one of them turns 74 or croaks, im just saying, they're not getting any younger, and they need to get this done and done well while the iron's hot.
I mean this is all of course just my own speculation, i have no idea whats going on behind the scenes, but from the sounds of things this my best assumption.
But unless we hear something otherwise by the end of summer, i'd be glad to eat all of my words.
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If anything, I hope the keep that eerie and creepiness factor in the movie. Like the first one and the video game, when walking through the library, objects floating, a drop in temperature. And perhaps a zombie-like creature, such as the cab driver or something. I feel that throwing a few weird and out of this world creatures along with human-based ghost should be a must.
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So much stuff floating in the air about Ghostbusters 3 and Ive got to say its playing with my head. I really hope Dan and Harold end up writing the script. Someone else writing it just seems like impersonation. I hope its not quite as dark as the game, all that changing demensions got to be too much. Doing it once is ok, like mabe at the end of the movie they will do it when they fight the "boss". As far as new Ghostbusters,I know im not the only on here that ghostbusters is the first movie you can remember , so naturally dan has always been ray, harold = egon etc... So it will be wierd if say seth rogan is in it, i would be like"oh....the guy from knocked up". And last but not least I hope they dont change the equipment too much. The original Proton Pack is great, Its suppose to have a half like of 5000 years. That being said why change it. I know they did on the video game, but if they do what they did on the video game they will have to CG the hell out of it. How do you think Star Wars would have turned out if the newer movies they had changed the Light Saber? It would kill half the feeling you get when you watch it. Im not trying to say GB3 will be bad at all this is just some of the things that have been on my mind.In the end I know it will be ok though because Dan , Harold, Ivan have control over it.
I recently heard that MIB III and SpiderMan 4 would start shooting respectively in september and december of this year... I'm still shocked to not hear anything about GB III... seems like Sony is ever too slowly testing the water, but never truly going for it. Not hearing about any greenlight makes me think they may have cold feet about it. I know this sounds pretty depressing as a post, but wouldn't it be simply a normal thing for them to try harder for things to happen if they really wanted it this bad?
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Esbe77 wrote:
I recently heard that MIB III and SpiderMan 4 would start shooting respectively in september and december of this year... I'm still shocked to not hear anything about GB III... seems like Sony is ever too slowly testing the water, but never truly going for it. Not hearing about any greenlight makes me think they may have cold feet about it. I know this sounds pretty depressing as a post, but wouldn't it be simply a normal thing for them to try harder for things to happen if they really wanted it this bad?
well, they had Spider Man Reboot already wrote in case of Spider Man 4's failure. And MIB 3...i think that they wrote it too quickly to cash in the 3d factor....i don't think it will be a good movie...as for GB3, i think that they're taking they're time to write it properly.......or they're in the "contracts" stage....a very very very delicate one!
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Personally I'm split on the idea of another Ghostbusters film. On one hand I love Ghostbusters, I miss the characters and I would like to see them make one more film. On the other, I would be bitterly disappointed if the film turned out to be disappointing.
I have read every available detail about this film and judging by what I've read, I do not like the sound of it.
I hear it's supposedly a passing of the torch film whereby the Ghostbusters will employ a group of new people. I have various problems with this idea.
Firstly, it'll remove the spotlight from the characters that we know and love. After waiting so long for to see the Ghostbusters again I think that it would be a very poor decision to introduce a new team of Ghostbusters. I want to be reaquainted with the characters from the previous two films. I want to follow them and them alone on another journey. Those are the characters that I am interested in and care about.
Secondly, introducing a new team would potentially mean the addition of another four characters and I think that it would overcrowd the film. It would be in huge danger of becoming an overstuffed picture.
The third problem I have with the introduction of a new group is that it just doesn't strike me as at all original or interesting. Think about it. Ghostbusters search for new employees, find a particular bunch of people, teach them how to use the equipment etc etc. It's all very predicatable and formulaic. Besides, the jokes been done in the first film already. We've seen what it's like for a group of inexperienced oddballs to witness their first spook and to use theromnuclear accelerators for the first time. The joke's been done!
The fourth problem I have with the passing of the torch idea is that the reason behind it is obviously so that the studio can carry on making more and more Ghostbusters films in the future. In my opinion I think that Ghostbusters III should just star the originals and should be the last film in the series. I'd hate Ghostbusters to become a long string of films which become progressively worse and which bare little resemblance to the reasons why I loved Ghostbusters in the first place.
I think IF they must make Ghostbusters III it should be the final film. It should act as a swansong and it should be a well made film which ends the series on a high.
One other issue I have is that the writers. Gene Stupnitsky and Lee Eisenberg the writers of the american version of "The Office" and "Year One" are apparently writing and judging by what they've worked on they don't seem to me to be particularly good. Why not just do what was done for the first film? Why not just bring Dan Ayckroyd and Harold Ramis together to write it?
Another issue I have is that I do not like the way that special effects are done in todays films. I just don't like the look of cgi. To me it just isn't as convincing as some of the methods of yesteryear such as the puppetry, matte paintings and animated effects. If I had my way I'd resort back to those effects because I think the film would not only look better but would make it feel more like a true Ghostbusters sequel. I can understand why cgi has killed off practical effects because cgi is so much quicker, easier and cheaper but the fact that its quicker, cheaper and easier has also meant that it has been overused in many films. Too many films are saturated by unecessary effects and I think that there is a definite danger that Ghostbusters III could have the same problem.
One more issue I have is the music. Music is incredibly important in film. Ghostbusters had an incredible score. It was just perfect. Who would create the score music for Ghostbusters III? There just isn't the talent that there once was. Most of the great film composers are sadly no longer with us. Sure there are a few talented individuals but the sad reality is that over the last twenty years of so score music has become awfully dull, uninspiring and instantly forgettable.
I think Ghostbusters III could be good but I think that the chances of it being disappointing are far greater. As I said at the beginning, I dearly love Ghostbusters but I'm not going to allow nostalgia go ahead of logic. Perhaps Ghostbusters should just be left alone.
If it doesn't get made, I'll always wish that it had been.
If it does get made, I'll hold judgment until I see it. In fact, I'm thinking about not immersing myself in all the inevitable little leaks and previews that will come out during production... but that would be extremely difficult for me and I'm honestly not sure I could do it.
Anyway, I want to keep an open mind about it. I have my opinions about what should be included, what they should change, and what should be left alone... but unless Dan or Harold calls me up for advice, my opinion isn't going to change the movie. At any rate I don't want to use those opinions I have to make sweeping generalizations, such as "the movie WILL suck if it has no X, Y, and Z".
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