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Doctor Venkman
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 10:06 am |
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skankerzero wrote: Doctor Venkman wrote: And I definitely disagree on this being "art". But then again, over the last 10 years or so, the meaning of the word "art" has definitely been skewed by everyone thinking art is about perception and that if you call something art, it instantly is. It creative, but this thing is not art, not in my mind at least. soooo... what you're saying is that art is all about perception? I collect everything that is designed by Shunya Yamashita and I don't fall into the 'can't get a girl' stereotype. That mentality is quite frankly insulting and very close minded. Again, I did not say it is my mentality. I said that it will further that mentality of those who have it. And no, I'm not saying art is all about perception. I'm saying that that is what is now being pushed so that everyone can claim to be an artist by doing anything they want. I just took a big dump, but it looked kind of like Joe Pesci. Am I now an artist for sculpting that? No. No, I am not.
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Adonis
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 10:12 am |
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Art *IS* all about perception, they teach that in Art 101. And the perception has changed in more than the past 10 years. In the 50s they didn't think Jackson Pollacks paint splatters to be art. Picasso definitely was not well received. And look at Van Gogh.
I like statues of things like this. A ripped outfit girl in a GB costume? Love it. If it was a statue of Hicks from Aliens in a cool pose? Love it. I'm a geek, a proud geek. I would be enthused if instead of this it was a realistic statue of Venkman or Stantz. I would be just as enthused if it was a anime or cartooney looking GB statue of one of the male characters. It is more the subject matter than the medium (scantily clad girl) that I enjoy. It being a hot chick is just icing on the cake.
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Doctor Venkman
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 10:16 am |
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Adonis wrote: Art *IS* all about perception, they teach that in Art 101. And the perception has changed in more than the past 10 years. In the 50s they didn't think Jackson Pollacks paint splatters to be art. Picasso definitely was not well received. And look at Van Gogh.
We're just not going to agree on this, so there's no point in discussing that.
I like statues of things like this. A ripped outfit girl in a GB costume? Love it. If it was a statue of Hicks from Aliens in a cool pose? Love it. I'm a geek, a proud geek. I would be enthused if instead of this it was a realistic statue of Venkman or Stantz. I would be just as enthused if it was a anime or cartooney looking GB statue of one of the male characters. It is more the subject matter than the medium (scantily clad girl) that I enjoy. It being a hot chick is just icing on the cake. I agree with this. I would be interested in a realistic statue of a Ghostbuster. A scantily clad chick who has nothing to do with the franchise just reaks of capitalizing on the "near nude boner inspiring" garbage. This girl has never appeared in Ghostbusters and has nothing to do with it. The artist seems to like just slapping a comic hero's uniform on a near nude "hot chick" and people buy it up. Its insulting to me, but to each their own.
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Adonis
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 10:24 am |
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As costumers, none of us can afford to be thin skinned. I get weird looks while in costume (no matter the costume) if I am wearing it someplace other than inside a convention or at a costume party. It happens. People see it, go "what a geek" and move on. Am I offended when female members of this board wear scant GB costumes? Not in the least. If a guy wanted to do a "Lt Dangel" equivalent of a male GB would I be offended and worry what other people think? Nope. As you say, to each their own.
This hobby is geeky enough already and one statue isn't going to make people see us as any cooler or any geekier.
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skankerzero
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 11:30 am |
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Doctor Venkman wrote: And no, I'm not saying art is all about perception. But yes you are. As soon as you define something as being or not being art based on personal taste, you are making a subjective decision based on your perception of what art is. Either way, just wanted to point that out. I'm not really interested in having a debate over what art is or isn't as we will never agree on a subjective matter.
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Doctor Venkman
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 11:45 am |
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skankerzero wrote: Doctor Venkman wrote: And no, I'm not saying art is all about perception. But yes you are. As soon as you define something as being or not being art based on personal taste, you are making a subjective decision based on your perception of what art is. Either way, just wanted to point that out. I'm not really interested in having a debate over what art is or isn't as we will never agree on a subjective matter. Good, agree to disagree... basically what I said a while ago.
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skankerzero
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 12:02 pm |
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Doctor Venkman wrote: ...basically what I said a while ago. haha, you crack me up. sorry I didn't catch that last couple words you said to someone else.
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Doctor Venkman
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 12:03 pm |
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skankerzero wrote: Doctor Venkman wrote: ...basically what I said a while ago. haha, you crack me up. sorry I didn't catch that last couple words you said to someone else. Glad I could entertain you. It was said before you even tried to make a stink about me bringing up the reality that this will probably further a negative stereotype. You didn't like what I said, so you jumped on me as if it was my opinion. Here, and on GBN. Let it go dude. We don't agree. That's fine. Stop hounding me about it already.
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 12:14 pm |
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Adonis wrote: If a guy wanted to do a "Lt Dangel" equivalent of a male GB would I be offended and worry what other people think? Nope. Dude, you totally just ruined my Halloween costume for this year. I guess I have to come up with a new idea now 
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Cyland Props
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 1:26 pm |
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Vincenzo330 wrote: Adonis wrote: If a guy wanted to do a "Lt Dangel" equivalent of a male GB would I be offended and worry what other people think? Nope. Dude, you totally just ruined my Halloween costume for this year. I guess I have to come up with a new idea now  Borat swimsuit Gb? I'm not an art critic for a living but I chose my own art. I'm one of those people who would love to see the Government get out of paying artists to produce art AKA The National Endowment For The Arts. If an artist can't make a living selling art then he should look for another means to make money. That being said I like this art piece. It's not one of those gaud awfull Applause vinyl statues that are always being passed off as art. You know the type, with the lips look like a swipe of paint and the eyes that are just a black glob swimming in a non distinct puddle of white.
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Posted: February 17th, 2011, 9:59 pm |
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Cyland Props wrote: I'm not an art critic for a living but I chose my own art. I'm one of those people who would love to see the Government get out of paying artists to produce art AKA The National Endowment For The Arts. If an artist can't make a living selling art then he should look for another means to make money.
Yeah, I don't see it ending anytime soon, and good for that.
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CPU64
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 12:19 pm |
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I don't think the art, or in this case the figure, is the thing that will "just further the "nerd" stereotype about not being able to get girls". Your extremely narrow mind, is what's helping further a stupid stereotype.
I find it interesting that majority majority of guys who call others "nerds", "virgin" and "can't get a girl", are usually somewhat obsessed with activities which consists of a bunch of sweaty muscular guys in either spandex or tiny speedos, jumping or grabbing each other. (i.e. football, wrestling, UFC, boxing...)
I mean, seriously. Guy interested in a sculpture of a sexy girl, VS Guy interested in muscular guys wrestling each other.. You be the judge.
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AJ Quick
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 12:54 pm |
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 1:01 pm |
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AJ Quick wrote: That statue is made in China. What isn't?
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AJ Quick
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 1:05 pm |
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Some_Guy
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 1:11 pm |
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CPU64 wrote: Guy interested in muscular guys wrestling each other.. You rang? 
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Adonis
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 2:16 pm |
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CPU64 wrote: I find it interesting that majority majority of guys who call others "nerds", "virgin" and "can't get a girl", are usually somewhat obsessed with activities which consists of a bunch of sweaty muscular guys in either spandex or tiny speedos, jumping or grabbing each other. (i.e. football, wrestling, UFC, boxing...)
I find it interesting that a lot of guys who call others "nerd", "virgin", etc are members of a scifi club for dressing up like a Trilogy of movies from the 70s-80s and they call other members of the same group and a sister group those names... 
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Doctor Venkman
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Posted: February 18th, 2011, 3:45 pm |
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CPU64 wrote: I don't think the art, or in this case the figure, is the thing that will "just further the "nerd" stereotype about not being able to get girls". Your extremely narrow mind, is what's helping further a stupid stereotype.
I find it interesting that majority majority of guys who call others "nerds", "virgin" and "can't get a girl", are usually somewhat obsessed with activities which consists of a bunch of sweaty muscular guys in either spandex or tiny speedos, jumping or grabbing each other. (i.e. football, wrestling, UFC, boxing...)
I mean, seriously. Guy interested in a sculpture of a sexy girl, VS Guy interested in muscular guys wrestling each other.. You be the judge. I really love how many people can't comprehend that its not my viewpoint, just that I think it will further that viewpoint for those who already have it, despite me having said that so many times. Do you people just not read, or as soon as you read something that you find mildly offensive do you stop mid-sentence and just jump on someone as if they were attacking you?
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Posted: February 20th, 2011, 7:05 am |
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Nice looking figure. I'm not into collecting Bishoujo figures but that looks very nice.
And people who start to make profound conclusions about not having a girlfriend when we're talking about one damn figure may have some problems.
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Gareee
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Posted: February 20th, 2011, 11:52 am |
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Posted: February 20th, 2011, 5:31 pm |
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I'd like to get one of these statues, but I think my wife would send me to a shrink for my GB obsession...
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Crix
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Posted: February 25th, 2011, 4:11 pm |
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I'd hit it.
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AJ Quick
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Posted: March 4th, 2011, 12:05 pm |
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The Stiff wrote: And now that I see it painted, there is definitely too much skin. I think they could have done without the ripped pants altogether. Yeah! No pants at all! Wooo!
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