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Pack and Slime Blower Decals
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 11:31 am
by valentino_42
First, a little preamble: I'm a graphic design major and current webmaster. I just got done building my pack over the last 5 months, and while perusing the boards here and researching, I came to understand that the HPProps labels were a little short of perfect. I ended up needing to create a few labels of my own that weren't included on the HPProps sheet.
On to the point: I'd like to create a new label sheet for proton packs (and eventually other equipment as well) from scratch and I would like community input on what they would like to see in a new label sheet. This is for the PDF file only, I will not be printing/manufacturing these. This sheet would be free for the community, I'm not looking to profit from this. If it turns out well, I'd like to offer it to AJ to be put up on this site for download. If he (or anyone else) chooses to print and sell them, that's totally fine with me, but I'm getting way ahead of myself.
This sheet would be an
unlocked PDF. It would make resizing and customizing decals much easier, and I enjoy the thought of that.
This thread is for suggestions/advice/input on a potential Proton Pack and Particle Thrower decal sheet only. - Things that Need Addressing:
- From what I understand, the HPProps sheet has an incorrect clippard valve label. If someone has the correct label info, I would appreciate it
- The sheet also seems to be missing the properly sized DANGER label from the N-Filter, if anyone has the correct dimensions off hand, that would also be great
I'll research the above items myself from reference pictures and threads on the boards, but if someone already has this info, it would speed up the process. As items are mentioned to me, I will add them to the list.
So, I ask you all to pitch in your input to get me started on this task. What needs to be addressed with the current pack label situation?
Basic Rev 8:
https://sites.google.com/site/valentino ... ects=0&d=1 Pro Rev 10:
https://sites.google.com/site/valentino ... ects=0&d=1
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 11:40 am
by Vincenzo330
The toggle switch labels on the thrower were also different in GB2 it would be cool to add the correct ones to the line up. I can work on a quick vector file of them. Here's a screen shot
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 11:50 am
by valentino_42
Great! A rough mockup, or some more head-on photos of those GBII thrower decals would be great. Any other pics of them?
- Things that Need Addressing:
- R-331 Clippard Valve label for pack instead of R-501
- N-Filter danger label
- GBII thrower toggle decals
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by enchanted unicorn
Wow, very cool man! I remember, it was a pain to resize the labels when I did my pack.. I had forgotten all about it.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:09 pm
by Vincenzo330
I think this might do the trick
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:18 pm
by Kingpin
What do you know, you learn something new every day.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:18 pm
by valentino_42
Vincenzo330 wrote:I think this might do the trick
Awesome. Thanks!
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:26 pm
by Filandrius
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 12:29 pm
by Vincenzo330
No they're for GB2, you're safe buddy
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:11 pm
by thunderstruck507
awesome idea, I look forward to seeing how this comes out!
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:20 pm
by valentino_42
I started redrawing the Clippard labels about an hour ago. Nearly done with the R-701. After that just a little copying, pasting, and tweaking to have a working R-331
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:28 pm
by Vincenzo330
Vincenzo330 wrote:No they're for GB2, you're safe buddy
Wait, sorry I confused myself. Yes, it was used in GB1 but possibly only on the thrower with the orange hat light above the LED bar. The same thrower with all the knobs painted black.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:32 pm
by Filandrius
OK! Because the screen shot you posted had those. And it's from GB1. I was more than a little confused myself.
That thrower is rather unique, isn't it?
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:34 pm
by pchrisbosh1
The Hpprops small red danger labels are a little bit to small and the bumper sticker is too large.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:37 pm
by valentino_42
Vincenzo330 wrote:Vincenzo330 wrote:No they're for GB2, you're safe buddy
Wait, sorry I confused myself. Yes it was used in GB1 but possibly only on the thrower with the orange light hat above the LED bar. The same thrower with all the knobs painted black.
Just so I'm clear, it was used on a single thrower in the first film... And was used for all guns in the second film?
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 1:48 pm
by Vincenzo330
The only thrower I know it was definitely used on was Winston's GB1 thrower. BTW this was not my discovery it was brought to my attention by a very wise friend who will remain nameless unless he wants to be mentioned.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 2:05 pm
by RedVirtue
Nice find!
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 3:18 pm
by ChapterMasterTu'Shan
What about the labels under the guntrack?
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 3:37 pm
by kevinj319
Filandrius wrote:OK! Because the screen shot you posted had those. And it's from GB1. I was more than a little confused myself.
That thrower is rather unique, isn't it?
That thrower is definitely unique, and I'm pretty sure it's the only time it's seen on screen. In the gozer encounter, all four guys have packs but none of them have that thrower attached. It might have been made specifically for that close-up shot. I also think it's the only thrower with a working bar graph. I noticed that this shot is the only time we see the bar graph move up and down, in all other shots where we can see the throwers turned on, the bar graph is solid orange.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 3:44 pm
by valentino_42
Ok, got the Clippard valve labels done. Had some trouble with the 331 as I was only able to come up with 1 blurry pic of the schematic side.
Give 'em a look and let me know if I need to fix something.
*Note: These are not to scale. It's a resized .gif
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 7:14 pm
by jackdoud
kevinj319 wrote:That thrower is definitely unique, and I'm pretty sure it's the only time it's seen on screen. In the gozer encounter, all four guys have packs but none of them have that thrower attached. It might have been made specifically for that close-up shot. I also think it's the only thrower with a working bar graph. I noticed that this shot is the only time we see the bar graph move up and down, in all other shots where we can see the throwers turned on, the bar graph is solid orange.
That's because that's the hero thrower which is intended only for close up glamour shots. It's the only one with fully functional lights and it is attached to the hero pack. The only "functional" lights the other throwers had were the white blinker by the vents, the switched vent lights and the orange hat that indicated to the production team when the flash bulbs in the ends of the tubes were spent and needed to be replaced before the next take. All other lights were full-on and static.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 7:45 pm
by kevinj319
jackdoud wrote: That's because that's the hero thrower which is intended only for close up glamour shots. It's the only one with fully functional lights and it is attached to the hero pack. The only "functional" lights the other throwers had were the white blinker by the vents, the switched vent lights and the orange hat that indicated to the production team when the flash bulbs in the ends of the tubes were spent and needed to be replaced before the next take. All other lights were full-on and static.
That's pretty much what I had figured. Thanks for the confirmation and details!
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 7:49 pm
by mburkit
ChapterMasterTu'Shan wrote:What about the labels under the guntrack?
You mean these?
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 7:50 pm
by ChapterMasterTu'Shan
No.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 26th, 2010, 7:59 pm
by jimbo7
I believe the 5A sticker goes towards the back. (the side with the disc covered with the washer and hook) Incase anyone was wondering.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 27th, 2010, 1:28 am
by Kingpin
jackdoud wrote:and the orange hat that indicated to the production team when the flash bulbs in the ends of the tubes were spent and needed to be replaced before the next take.
Where did you read/hear that? I only ask as the orange hatlight is illuminated whilst Egon is firing his Proton Gun in the Sedgewick ballroom, and as far as I'm aware the flash bulb was working at that time.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 27th, 2010, 6:54 am
by valentino_42
Ok, veering this discussion back on course...
- Needs Addressing
- Clippard R-331 valve label - done
- N-Filter Danger Label
- Winston's GB "Hero" thrower toggle decals
- Enlarge small red danger labels
- Shrink bumper decal
- Guntrack labels
Anything else?
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 27th, 2010, 7:36 am
by Filandrius
If I'm not mistaken, the bumper label is supposed to have rounded corners. The one of Hprops has square corners.
And the HGA label isn't supposed to have a black outline.
Minor details, but hey. It's all in the details.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 27th, 2010, 8:42 am
by jackdoud
Kingpin wrote:Where did you read/hear that? I only ask as the orange hatlight is illuminated whilst Egon is firing his Proton Gun in the Sedgewick ballroom, and as far as I'm aware the flash bulb was working at that time.
It's an inference I made myself. The orange hat lights on the thrower are only seen on either during or after firing. The flash bulb (single use camera style) at the end of the tube created the initial burst of light then lights in the barrel created the continued flashing barrel light. I surmised that the hat light was used as a break indicator for the production FX guys on set so they'd know to replace the flash bulb before performing another take.
Re: New Pack Decal/Label PDF Interest - Input Requested
Posted: October 27th, 2010, 9:29 am
by valentino_42
- Needs Addressing
- Clippard R-331 valve label - done
- N-Filter Danger Label
- Winston's GB "Hero" thrower toggle decals
- Enlarge small red danger labels
- Shrink bumper decal and add rounded corners
- Guntrack labels
- No black outline on HGA label
