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WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 1st, 2017, 8:51 pm
by WindDrake
Posting this up before I forget.

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So far, I've designed filler/backing plates for the Clippard, speaker, and V-Hook. I've also designed a power cell lens, and slide-in loom clamps.

Files are here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2563427

Here's some pictures of what I've got installed so far.

Powercell Lens (Before flame polishing).

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V-Hook plates - These are designed to fill and reinforce the area.
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Speaker Plate
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As I get more printed & fitted, I'll post more images.

Similarly, if anybody has any requests, please speak up so I can model and test fit while I've got this thing apart.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 1st, 2017, 9:22 pm
by 1chapelcredit
About to get my spirit pack AND my 3d printer, so this thread is the bomb for me! thanks! Are you going to use the Neutrino Wand that came with the spirit pack, a matty wand, or a 3d printed wand? If the former, are you going to print something to reinforce the v-hook as well?

-TJ

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 1st, 2017, 9:34 pm
by necrosapien87
Man, i could use some of these, too bad I don't have a 3d printer.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 10:11 am
by slimer01
I added a v hook on the plates I'll post it soon

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 2:54 pm
by WindDrake
1chapelcredit wrote:About to get my spirit pack AND my 3d printer, so this thread is the bomb for me! thanks! Are you going to use the Neutrino Wand that came with the spirit pack, a matty wand, or a 3d printed wand? If the former, are you going to print something to reinforce the v-hook as well?

-TJ
3D Printed wand. I'm going with a metal V-Hook from CPU64, though.

With the insert plates, the shell should be tough enough to hold up a printed wand no problem, so long as you also bolt it to a motherboard like our full-size packs. Otherwise, yes, I will investigate a reinforcement piece.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 3:01 pm
by WindDrake
necrosapien87 wrote:Man, i could use some of these, too bad I don't have a 3d printer.
If I had the excess of free time I'd likely have a supporting membership by now to help on those fronts.

At the very least, check the FS section, as there are several folks there selling various 3D printed items that I'm sure could get whatever you need printed up for you.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 3:55 pm
by 1chapelcredit
Or try the local library; a lot of them have 3d printers these days. When I heard that, I thought "yeah, but surely not in Waco." But they do, and they just charge you for the plastic. Might be worth doing for small parts like this (though I don't know if I would trust it to print me out an entire Neutrino Wand).

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 3:57 pm
by 1chapelcredit
WindDrake wrote:
1chapelcredit wrote:About to get my spirit pack AND my 3d printer, so this thread is the bomb for me! thanks! Are you going to use the Neutrino Wand that came with the spirit pack, a matty wand, or a 3d printed wand? If the former, are you going to print something to reinforce the v-hook as well?

-TJ
3D Printed wand. I'm going with a metal V-Hook from CPU64, though.

With the insert plates, the shell should be tough enough to hold up a printed wand no problem, so long as you also bolt it to a motherboard like our full-size packs. Otherwise, yes, I will investigate a reinforcement piece.
Awesome! I'm going to (probably) use the included wand this year for halloween so I don't have to fool around with lights and sound and risk having neither (I'm a complete noob) until after. After that it's definitely 3d printed wand time. Are you scaling to 80% so they match? I've seen some Matty Wands on Spirit Packs, and as cool as that is they do look a bit too big.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 5:20 pm
by WindDrake
Going with a 100% wand on it. Scaled wands just look too strange to me.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 8:41 pm
by WindDrake
Got more work done. Forgot to take a picture from the rear of the inserted Clippard backing plate, or the filling I did for the holes on the clippard, speaker, and resistors on the Ion arm.

The ion arm holes were no big deal. Back with tape, fill with spot putty. Sand.

Here's where I'm at now. 3D Printed full size resistors with modified holes for 1/8 tubing as that's what the Spirit packs use, as well as a full size printed Clippard, full-width opened cable slot, and a drilled N-Filter. The base coat was satin black, with a dust coat of flat. Very close to my pack in finish, should be nearly dead-on with a clearcoat (not done yet). The stickers are still masked in these pictures (except one) as well.

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I also picked up red, blue, and yellow tubing to re-tube the whole pack, as the included tubing is largely junk. The fittings are kinda nice, though. A repaint and they would look acceptable. Might still use them. Not sure.

Edit: Forgot to mention - I added the resistors to my Thingiverse page for this.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 8:06 am
by slimer01
I don't have a spirt pack as I have no need for it but I'd have to fix a few more things that would bother me and this is just my preference. Id take the hga end off and 3d print a new one. The tube for the loom is missing so I would print that along with using a dremel to sand down the crank knob and 3d print that too. And print rods for the iron arm. The one filler tube is high and not in it's right place so if probably cut that off and print one or pvc. ImageImage

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 7:23 pm
by slimer01
I did this if you like it I'll send you the file in case you want to do more to it.Image

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 7:31 pm
by WindDrake
On the Spirit packs, the loom tube is instead a boss the loom slips over. I actually like this idea.

The HGA area is kind of complex, didn't want to cut that off. Plus a full-size HGA is huge on the corner.

The crank knob I agree on, but as it's a cast-in surface detail, I'd have to cut it off, fill the are and sand in order to mount a new one. As I did that already for the speaker and Clippard, I decided to skip it for now.

The filler tubes don't bother me - slight layout change, but it's ultimately no big deal.

The ion arm I agree on as well - I have a chunk of rod here to put them in proper, but I need to epoxy fill the ion arm first, as it is hollow and won't hold a rod otherwise.

Small progress update:

Printed the legris straights and elbows, as well as the brass elbows. They came out nice - need to polish and paint them tomorrow. Got the clearcoat on the pack shell as well, and I cut a motherboard from 16ga steel sheeting today. Got paint on one side of it - hoping to do the other side here in a few minutes.

I designed a nut-capturing M5 hardware bracket for mounting the pack shell to the motherboard, but I won't be posting that file until I've tested it tomorrow.

I did however upload the remodeled brass elbow I'm using for this pack. Mounts on a 1/4" hole (easier to redrill the Spirit pack mounting holes) and accepts 1/8 tubing.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 7:37 pm
by slimer01
It looks like the hga end cap could come off. And could put print out another one.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 8:34 pm
by WindDrake
Made more progress tonight.

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Printed brass elbows in and painted (2/3). Since I didn't remove the molded-in one, I'm printing just the end nut so I can modify it to look like the other two.

Clearcoat is on now, and the stickers are all uncovered. Also got the ribbon cable installed, as well as the cable clamp (7/8").

Shock mount will be tomorrow, as I need to drill it for a slot-head screw on top.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 3rd, 2017, 10:03 pm
by Rewindtime1984
Looks great so far, just started mine today, although you are really doing it proper! Im just doing a basic revision to make it look better. You have convinced me to check my library 3d printer situation tho!

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 4th, 2017, 8:16 pm
by WindDrake
Today's Progress:

Installed missing stickers, mounted pack to the motherboard, mounted motherboard to ALICE frame, installed brass rod in Ion Arm, installed all tubing and remaining fittings, installed powercell lens.

All that is left is to install the missing 1/2" loom, electronics, and then the Clippard label and wand labels. Getting close to done here!

Pre Ion Arm rods, next to my fullsize pack.

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Potato quality picture with the ion arm rods installed.

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I also released the mount files I designed for mounting the pack to the frame.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 7th, 2017, 11:41 am
by WindDrake
Made some more progress in the last couple of days.

This is how I backfilled the Ion Arm. 3 full tubes of plastic bonding epoxy. This actually hissed loudly and softened the plastic with the extreme heat from the reaction. DO THIS IN STAGES or use a longer-setting (60m+) epoxy. This wasn't my best idea. :)

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Hand cut speaker grille using a 3D printed template.

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3D Printed cable clamps. Works great!

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3D Printed 2nd booster tube>cyclotron connector. The booster end is just 1/4" loom glued in place. This has to be smaller (10mm instead of 14mm) because there isn't enough room between it and the motherboard.

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Electronics in the pack shell, along with the flashlight reflectors used in the Cyclotron.

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Electronics on the motherboard, speaker, brackets, etc.

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Basically done at this point. I've since weathered it and added the missing R701 label on the pack, as well as filled in all the shell holes and original backpack strap holes. Pretty easy, too. Cover the area with blue painters tape formed to fit the detail, then backfill with a good high-temp (Easy-flowing) HMA (hot melt adhesive). You can peel the tape away when done, and it'll leave a nicely finished, flat fill behind. Just paint to match.

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All I'm waiting on now is my V-Hook from CPU64.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 8th, 2017, 1:47 am
by WindDrake
Did more work today.

As you can see in previous posts, I drilled the N-Filter while it was still screwed together. I want to keep the labels intact, however, so punching through them to disassemble the N-Filter to remove the top of the pack's molded-in center boss was out of the question.

Instead, I cross-drilled the screws with a hand drill (purposefully in at an angle) to break them with a 1/8" bit. Punched through them nicely. I then removed the remnants of the circle in the shell with a dremel and filed things flush with a half-round file.

A little screen material and HMA, and we're in business.

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The N-Filter was epoxied back together at the "Spokes" and the paint will be further re-touched (after this picture) with satin varnish to match finish with the surrounding paint.

I then finally went back and put on the neck foam, as well as finished weathering the pack.

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Can't find a whole lot more to do at this point. I've been adding missing screws and such, but I think I've got them all now.

Just waiting on my V-Hook from CPU64. Really hoping I get it before the weekend, as this is my wife's pack and the Windy City Ghostbusters have a packed October starting next weekend.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:11 pm
by 1chapelcredit
Finally got the 3d printer going; the V-Hook inner fill plate rounded peg was too big for the hole on the side of the proton pack. Any suggestions? Did yours fit right off?

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:14 pm
by WindDrake
I designed the part with 3-4 thousandths clearance, and I've done two now, so not sure what's up with yours. How oversize is the peg?

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:27 pm
by WindDrake
Got my wife's pack totally complete today.

Ended up having to go with a Weldone Fab/Eric413 GB2 V-Hook as the other one I ordered wasn't going to be here in time. No biggie, the other one will go on the next pack.

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Nice thing about the Weldone V-Hook is that it came with a backing plate to install on the other side of the shell wall, for support. On the Spirit packs, this is a huge boon

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:29 pm
by slimer01
Your heat sink in facing the wrong way. Otherwise looks good man!

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:32 pm
by WindDrake
slimer01 wrote:Your heat sink in facing the wrong way. Otherwise looks good man!
I took some artistic liberty with this one. :)

Thanks! Was a lot more work than I expected it to be.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 12th, 2017, 8:34 pm
by 1chapelcredit
Thanks for the quick response! Not too be too precise, but pretty darn too big! Which is really weird, because the square flat portion fits perfectly into the square flat space on the pack. So either it's my 3d printer struggling to print circles (very possible), or there are two models out there! I'll post pictures when I can.

Edit: Just compared to some photos online; mine has a MUCH smaller peg hole for the wand than the original promo pictures.

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: October 13th, 2017, 4:01 am
by WindDrake
Did you remove the factory filler plate that holds the wand, first?

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: December 17th, 2017, 8:54 pm
by roofgoof
Would love to see more pics of how your motherboard attaches and looks. that's my biggest issue im having with my pack. :sigh:

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: January 13th, 2018, 5:28 pm
by northphotog
Just got some of the vhook parts printed today at local library. Get designs so far.Image

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: March 20th, 2018, 4:54 pm
by CAZAFANTASMA
Amazing. Wondering if u ever got to design the gun parts like the tube ear and such? Thanks

Re: WindDrake's 3D Printed Spirit Proton Pack Mod Files (and Build)

Posted: March 20th, 2018, 6:37 pm
by WindDrake
I did the Guntrack and V-Hook, but I won't be doing any more parts for the stock wand, as I'm really no fan of it, and the few Spirit packs I've built up all use 100% size 3D Printed throwers.