pferreira1983 wrote:If someone wants to change their gender by all means but in a lot of cases I feel it's starting to become like getting a tattoo.
That's a pretty ignorant oversimplification of the transitioning process, transitioning isn't something you can get done in a weekend or a couple of weeks, or on a drunken night out.
pferreira1983 wrote:Someone wants to be identified by a gender because they support some politics
It has
nothing to do with politics, and I would be honestly, greatly surprised if you were able to present me with an example of someone transitioning solely because of their political views. Transitioning is about helping those who feel they were born as the wrong gender reach something that helps them feel more comfortable in their own skin.
It's not done because "it's the trendy thing to do".
pferreira1983 wrote:On the occasion Trump or Milo or anyone else are correct in criticising these people then I'm all for that.
pferreira1983 wrote:If we listen to every left wing person the world wouldn't function properly.
There are members of the right who bellyache just as much and as long as similar members of the left, it's just on different topics.
pferreira1983 wrote:I won't condemn Milo for coming out as gay
What?
Since when has anybody here asked you to do that? (the answer clearly is nobody) I'm asking you to condemn the more despicable claims he's made, and maybe not to quickly tie yourself to his standard, just because he may say a few things that resonate with you.
pferreira1983 wrote:when he's been abused.
He's a professional victim, not to mention a troll and a bully. As someone who was the victim of bullying in school, I can see a genuine victim and I can see someone who acts the part as part of a persecution complex. Milo does not does not deserve sympathy for having to leave his job or for having his own feelings hurt, those are the results of the life and actions he has led, which have frequently lacked consideration for how they'd affect other people.
He isn't the first bully, nor the last, to cry victim when the people he tormented finally stand up against him.
pferreira1983 wrote:that's why I don't understand your comments like "what he stands for."
Then permit me to lay out what Milo appears to standsfor (in no particular order):
Homophobia
Transphobia
Racism
Sexism
Anti-femism
Internet harassment and abuse
(And that's just the stuff I felt I could appropriately refer to on this forum)
You may not be his biggest fan, but your willingness to lend some of your support to him when I feel there is a strong argument to leave him standing alone is something I personally find concerning.
pferreira1983 wrote:That's great but you can't label someone right or left or middle based on some comments posted here.
After how long we've been talking issues like these and others? I do believe we can.
pferreira1983 wrote:It doesn't give you a clear picture of someone.
Respectfully, while it isn't the total sum of your parts, I do think you've given us a good insight into your approach with a lot of things. It's a sketch, rather than a finished oil painting... but I don't believe it to be an inaccurate one.
pferreira1983 wrote:It comes across as reactionary.
Reactionary would've been me describing you as "right wing" in the very first response I'd ever made to a post of yours, it's been months now and I think that time has allowed you to paint/sketch a very telling portrait of yourself.
Happy Birthday, by the way.
JurorNo.2 wrote:I'm very against political correctness.
A thought I've mused on more than a few times this past year is that, would so many people who are against/very against political correctness be so against it if the benefits they'd gotten from political correctness could be catalogued and pointed out?
I appreciate that political correctness sometimes gets it wrong, goes a little overboard, or is incorrectly implemented by people who had a misguided, but well-meaning approach.
But as someone who has benefitted from it providing laws, legislation, politics and social progress that have improved my life in little ways... I am grateful for it.
Were it not for political correctness, and the attitudes it has generated, I could still be subject to any of the following:
*I could be fired from my job for being gay (and that still happens frequently in several American states).
*I would be considered suffering from a "mental disorder" because of my orientation.
*I would not be able to get married.
*I would not be allowed to adopt (which again, still happens in some American states, and even with some agencies here in the UK).
And in retrospect, I'll still have had it easier than someone who is not white, or not male - they'd have every right to school me on how my benefit from political correctness doesn't even come up to how they've benefitted from it.