Discuss the Ghostbusters movie that was released in 2016.
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By Sav C
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Ghostbusters: Answer the Call (GBATC) deserves recognition. The Ghostbusters franchise had not seen a new film installment since 1989. In 2014, it was announced Paul Feig would take the reins of a new Ghostbusters movie.

Right out of the gate, GBATC faced an uphill battle. Feig announced a gender-swapped reboot, resulting in an uproar. Some fans disliked that the movie was not a continuation of the original canon. Other fans asserted that it was ruining their childhoods.

Misogynistic fans flat out declared that women cannot be funny, and deemed them unsuitable to be Ghostbusters. “What’s going on?” asked Donald Trump in a January 2015 blog video on the subject. Rumors of an all-male Ghostbusters started circulating, fuelling an “us vs. them” mentality—men vs. women. The movie was accused of pushing a feministic political agenda.

Internet trolls went to work, attacking everyone involved with GBATC. Speaking positively of the reboot resulted in being labeled a shill, or a Sony plant, or both. Things became fugly.

Mind you, all of this controversy was still before the first teaser trailer was released. It was not until February of 2016 that a teaser dropped—by this time, GBATC had little goodwill going in its favor. The advertising campaign only made the movie more contentious. Eventually, the reboot got mixed up in the heated American election cycle; the two seemed to parallel each other. The River of Slime ran deep.

When GBATC was released in July of 2016, it was neither a flop nor a breakout success. While opinions varied widely, one thing was taken to be a priori: the chance of Ghostbusters III being made was over. Ghostbusters, over.

Yet, here we are in 2019, where that conclusion could not be further from the truth—Ghostbusters III is alive as it has ever been. Now with an official teaser, and a director, Jason Reitman, sentiment has made a turnaround. Some of the so-called shills, who were quick to support the reboot, stuck around after the controversy died down, and are now celebrating this new, exciting development.

Which leaves me here, perplexed as to what all of the controversy was for, as nothing was ruined. Nothing at all. Ghostbusters: Answer the Call was just a movie, yet it was challenged long before it even got out of the gate. GBATC managed to get through to some fans, including myself, who were happy to embrace it. With a new Ghostbusters movie on the horizon, it is time for fans, regardless of whether they liked the movie or not, to recognize Ghostbusters: Answer the Call for what it really is: a well deserving part of the ever-expanding Ghostbusters franchise.
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By Alphagaia
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Hear ye Hear ye!
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By RichardLess
#4912090
Let's not and say we did.

No I'm only kidding(well..half kidding lol) I know some of you like it.

It still just blows my mind how anyone can be fan of the original films and "tolerate" the reboot. Not even "like". I don't know how you tolerate it. The "RedletterMedia" Plinkett review of GB16 is so spot on. Give it a watch if you haven't seen it. I disagree with them on some things like Star Wars prequels but that GB'16 video is just lethal in its criticsm. Especially the Papa Johns part. They even improve the film by re editing a sequence with non stop yakking by removing all the quips and increasing the tension. It's quite something how well it works.

But you know what? If this is what it took to get a GB3 by Jason Reitman, then so be it. If it was meant to be, it was meant to be.

Just think...a year from now we will have a brand new Ghostbusters trailer. Even the small teaser we got today had more tension, atmosphere and Ghostbusters spirit than GB16 had in its entire runtime(sorry I really can't help it)

Anyways, sorry. I didn't want to poop all over the GB16 love. I still wish I could watch it with one of you. Just to see what you see. It's a fascinating thing. It's not even that I'm just "meh" on the movie. My triggers in life are Donald Trump and GB16. I can't find any redeeming quality in either of them.

Anyways..continue on. I said my piece lol.
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By 80sguy
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It still just blows my mind how anyone can be fan of the original films and "tolerate" the reboot. Not even "like". I don't know how you tolerate it.
It's called different opinions. It is REALLY that hard to understand that another person doesn't like the same thing you do? Here's a big shocker, there are people who don't like the original Ghostbusters film.
Anyways, sorry. I didn't want to poop all over the GB16 love.
You say that, yet you say things that indirectly insult people who like it.
My triggers in life are Donald Trump and GB16. I can't find any redeeming quality in either of them.
Getting triggered over a film isn't a good thing. If after 3 years, people are still getting worked up over a MOVIE they may need to evaluate their priorities.

EDIT: And not surprisingly, deadderek down votes my post. You're doing a great job of proving Paul Feig's comment about toxic people in fandoms.
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By DarkSpectre
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If anything the reboot proved how popular the originals were. Just ask Spirit Halloween, Ghostbusters World, etc. I think it's less about the film itself and more about the GB logo being back in the public consciousness. And this is from a guy who built and wears an ATC pack. My opinion has softened on it over the past few years, I have some of the merch and I picked up the Bluray over Christmas for a few bucks but I don't think it deserves applause or credit, because at the end of the day it divided the fandom and set off a trend of Hollywood blaming fans for their shortcomings. Now there have been a lot of tremendous build work put forth the past few years for that and it has brought a new crowd to the fandom, these things I appreciate.
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By RichardLess
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It still just blows my mind how anyone can be fan of the original films and "tolerate" the reboot. Not even "like". I don't know how you tolerate it.
It's called different opinions. It is REALLY that hard to understand that another person doesn't like the same thing you do? Here's a big shocker, there are people who don't like the original Ghostbusters film.
Anyways, sorry. I didn't want to poop all over the GB16 love.
You say that, yet you say things that indirectly insult people who like it.
My triggers in life are Donald Trump and GB16. I can't find any redeeming quality in either of them.
Getting triggered over a film isn't a good thing. If after 3 years, people are still getting worked up over a MOVIE they may need to evaluate their priorities.

EDIT: And not surprisingly, deadderek down votes my post. You're doing a great job of proving Paul Feig's comment about toxic people in fandoms.
Oh dude, 100%. I know it's not a good thing. My god, if only I could control the good things lol. I'd be a much better and happier person.

Also? I realize it's an opinion. But it just amazes, maybe amaze isn't the right word. It fascinates me that anyone could enjoy that movie AND(key word here is "and") the originals. I get it though. I've been on the other side. I love the original Star Wars and the prequels. Back in 2002 people said the same thing I'm saying about Gb16 but in regards to the prequels. So I get it. I mean..I *get* why they don't like those movies. I disagree with them but I comprehend their reasons. With GB16 I just don't get it at all. I look at that movie and just don't see anything worth liking. Not a single redeeming quality. To me it's as bad a movie as something like "Master of Disguise" if anyone remembers that movie.

I'm not trying to insult anyone who likes it. If I did my apologies but that was not my intent. Can you tell me where you felt insulted so I can learn from that and maybe word things better?

Edit: also I have to say, that's bad form on your part calling out someone that disliked your post & then saying Feig was right about the toxicity. The dislike button is there for a reason. Disliking your response isn't toxic. Don't equate the two.
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By 80sguy
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Also? I realize it's an opinion. But it just amazes, maybe amaze isn't the right word. It fascinates me that anyone could enjoy that movie AND(key word here is "and") the originals. I get it though. I've been on the other side. I love the original Star Wars and the prequels. Back in 2002 people said the same thing I'm saying about Gb16 but in regards to the prequels. So I get it. I mean..I *get* why they don't like those movies. I disagree with them but I comprehend their reasons. With GB16 I just don't get it at all. I look at that movie and just don't see anything worth liking. Not a single redeeming quality.
Why does it even need to be question though? Some like Star Wars, some people don't. It really isn't a mystery. Also while you say there isn't any redeeming quality, others may disagree. You probably don't like the comedic tone, some else might. There isn't anything to *get*. Movies are subjective to the individual.
I'm not trying to insult anyone who likes it. If I did my apologies but that was not my intent. Can you tell me where you felt insulted so I can learn from that and maybe word things better?
I would stop saying things like "How anyone can like the original film and tolerate the remake". That's basically like saying "you're not a true fan if you like it" argument. It's been used over and over as arguments against the reboot, and a really poor comparison to make. Imagine if people said "How can anyone who likes the Batman series with Adam West and tolerate the one with Micheal Keaton/Christian Bale". You can like different versions of a franchise, for whatever reason.
Edit: also I have to say, that's bad form on your part calling out someone that disliked your post & then saying Feig was right about the toxicity. The dislike button is there for a reason. Disliking your response isn't toxic. Don't equate the two.
The dislike button was originally created to give an idea for mods about what posts are bad or spam in nature. Members have been mostly been using it down vote anything positive said about the remake. Posts in here have already been downvoted simply for stating they like the remake. That is toxic. If members wren't down voting positive comments about the film (and in some cases, actual facts regarding it), it'd be another matter.
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By robbritton
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I love Answer The Call, as I love the originals, both cartoons, the comics and the video game. At its heart, despite stylistic differences (which there equally are between Ghostbusters 1 and 2, lest we forget. Comedic trends change with time) it is another chapter of underdogs coming together to save the day through the power of their smarts and eccentricities. It IS a Ghostbusters story as far as I’m concerned and sits proudly on my shelves alongside the others.

I equally love how Erik Burnham has integrated them in such a smart way in the IDW comics. When I watch any of the various things nowadays, that multiverse is in my head tying it together. (And yeah, I wouldn’t be the tiniest bit surprised if the animated movie had at least the ATC and RGB teams pop up. Spider-Verse has been good to Sony, so it’d seem odd not to consider it.)

I don’t see there being much mileage in trying to argue people into liking it anymore, mind. I’ve seen plenty of reasonable folk give reasonable reasons for not digging it amongst a lot of bs reasons. I can’t change any of that, though, and I figure ultimately I’m getting the better deal enjoying everything where they are getting down about it.

And now, y’know, I’m psyched about Ghostbusters 2020. It’s a new story in this world that I love so much and I welcome it with open arms without feeling like I am betraying ATC somehow by doing so.

My take: It’s ok to love it, it’s ok to hate it, just don’t anyone be a jerk about how they do either of those things and we should all be golden.
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By SSJmole
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I love Answer The Call, as I love the originals, both cartoons, the comics and the video game.
Exactly , it's all fun and all has unique aspects that make them great (though I will say f*** sanctum of slime , that game was so bad so very very bad though others can like it I won't stop them) like the even the main videogame I loved ps3 version and played wii version the most as co-op was amazingly fun. Even the ds's one had unique aspects.

Side note Lego dimensions original level pack and the 2016 story pack have me withing and hoping we get a Lego Ghostbusters videogame playing through 1 2 the reboot and 3 when it's out and maybe do real and extreme as dlc. Though I may be in the small group that want that lol
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By RichardLess
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Also? I realize it's an opinion. But it just amazes, maybe amaze isn't the right word. It fascinates me that anyone could enjoy that movie AND(key word here is "and") the originals. I get it though. I've been on the other side. I love the original Star Wars and the prequels. Back in 2002 people said the same thing I'm saying about Gb16 but in regards to the prequels. So I get it. I mean..I *get* why they don't like those movies. I disagree with them but I comprehend their reasons. With GB16 I just don't get it at all. I look at that movie and just don't see anything worth liking. Not a single redeeming quality.
Why does it even need to be question though? Some like Star Wars, some people don't. It really isn't a mystery. Also while you say there isn't any redeeming quality, others may disagree. You probably don't like the comedic tone, some else might. There isn't anything to *get*. Movies are subjective to the individual.
I'm not trying to insult anyone who likes it. If I did my apologies but that was not my intent. Can you tell me where you felt insulted so I can learn from that and maybe word things better?
I would stop saying things like "How anyone can like the original film and tolerate the remake". That's basically like saying "you're not a true fan if you like it" argument. It's been used over and over as arguments against the reboot, and a really poor comparison to make. Imagine if people said "How can anyone who likes the Batman series with Adam West and tolerate the one with Micheal Keaton/Christian Bale". You can like different versions of a franchise, for whatever reason.
Edit: also I have to say, that's bad form on your part calling out someone that disliked your post & then saying Feig was right about the toxicity. The dislike button is there for a reason. Disliking your response isn't toxic. Don't equate the two.
The dislike button was originally created to give an idea for mods about what posts are bad or spam in nature. Members have been mostly been using it down vote anything positive said about the remake. Posts in here have already been downvoted simply for stating they like the remake. That is toxic. If members wren't down voting positive comments about the film (and in some cases, actual facts regarding it), it'd be another matter.
"why does it need to be a question"
Wow. I just don't even know what to say to this. Out of all the things ever said to me on this forum, that has to win some kind of prize. You explaining that people have different tastes was cute though. You must be a blast at parties lol.

I think opinions and saying foolish things should merit a downvote or two. Downvote aren't a big deal. Complaining about someone downvoting you comes off as a bit petty & a tad thin skinned. If it were every post, then you'd have a point. If you can "like" a post for its validity you should be able to downvote if you think the opposite is true. I don't believe what you say about "anything postive about the reboot" getting down votes is true. There are plenty of postive things said about the reboot that don't have dislikes.

You think asking how someone can tolerate the remake is "basically saying they aren't a true fan"? Interesting. I would say anyone arriving to that conclusion is reading into things waaaay too much. I mean, the website we are on is literally called "Gbfans" and liking anything related to Ghostbusters makes you a fan. That's like saying "anyone who can tolerate President Trump isn't a true American" which is of course a foolish notion. We are all here for the same reason right? For our love of Dragon Ball Z!(or something). "True fans" aren't even a thing. If you're a fan, it's true. Unless you are lying about being a fan, which would be....stupid.
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By Alphagaia
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I love Answer The Call, as I love the originals, both cartoons, the comics and the video game. At its heart, despite stylistic differences (which there equally are between Ghostbusters 1 and 2, lest we forget. Comedic trends change with time) it is another chapter of underdogs coming together to save the day through the power of their smarts and eccentricities. It IS a Ghostbusters story as far as I’m concerned and sits proudly on my shelves alongside the others.

I equally love how Erik Burnham has integrated them in such a smart way in the IDW comics. When I watch any of the various things nowadays, that multiverse is in my head tying it together. (And yeah, I wouldn’t be the tiniest bit surprised if the animated movie had at least the ATC and RGB teams pop up. Spider-Verse has been good to Sony, so it’d seem odd not to consider it.)

I don’t see there being much mileage in trying to argue people into liking it anymore, mind. I’ve seen plenty of reasonable folk give reasonable reasons for not digging it amongst a lot of bs reasons. I can’t change any of that, though, and I figure ultimately I’m getting the better deal enjoying everything where they are getting down about it.

And now, y’know, I’m psyched about Ghostbusters 2020. It’s a new story in this world that I love so much and I welcome it with open arms without feeling like I am betraying ATC somehow by doing so.

My take: It’s ok to love it, it’s ok to hate it, just don’t anyone be a jerk about how they do either of those things and we should all be golden.
I cannot like this enough. Well said! These are the kind of posts I like to see.
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By 80sguy
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I think opinions and saying foolish things should merit a downvote or two.
Downvoting because of opinions isn't any better. The only times I've actually seen the downvote used in a fair way is when the poster was attacking others. Other times it's been "You like the remake? Downvoting!"
You think asking how someone can tolerate the remake is "basically saying they aren't a true fan"?
You asked how anyone can *like the ORIGINAL* and tolerate the remake. Those extra words change the implication of the question. If you just asked "I don't know how anyone can tolerate the remake" it would be different. It's not adding any kind of standard to it. By adding the original film in the mix, it sounds like the Star Wars fans arguing "You aren't a fan if you like the new films because the originals were better". I never said I believed in "true fans". I said it's been used as an argument against something, and it's stupid because it's basically the no true Scott man fallacy.
By RichardLess
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I think opinions and saying foolish things should merit a downvote or two.
Downvoting because of opinions isn't any better. The only times I've actually seen the downvote used in a fair way is when the poster was attacking others. Other times it's been "You like the remake? Downvoting!"
You think asking how someone can tolerate the remake is "basically saying they aren't a true fan"?
You asked how anyone can *like the ORIGINAL* and tolerate the remake. Those extra words change the implication of the question. If you just asked "I don't know how anyone can tolerate the remake" it would be different. It's not adding any kind of standard to it. By adding the original film in the mix, it sounds like the Star Wars fans arguing "You aren't a fan if you like the new films because the originals were better". I never said I believed in "true fans". I said it's been used as an argument against something, and it's stupid because it's basically the no true Scott man fallacy.
How does it sound like that at al!?! Both movies approach the comedy from different styles. They are very different. Wondering how one can tolerate the other is not saying ANYTHING about being a fan. At all. You suggesting it's sounds like the Star Wars thing is ridiculous. You are simply reading too much into things that aren't there. End of story. I find it insulting that anyone could find that insulting.

I don't even know what you are attempting to say with the "true fans" belief thing. Soo sure. Why not?

I think a downvote is warranted when people are being obtuse, ignorant, won't listen to reason or because their opinion is ridiculous. But trying to police how one uses it is for the mods, not us lowly plebs. Complaining about a downvote seems petty to me. But just that's me.
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By timeware
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Recognition? Sure but in what form?

I'm not opposed to minor cameos in the upcoming movie. Mc Carthy's book on Janine's desk, schematics of the girls equipment? It's probably not going to happen due to being set in the original universe.

I'm sure eventually IDW will do another cross over event and we'll see the cast of ATC once more. Were just going to have to wait and see if the girls get to reprise their roles. Maybe the new movie will boost the sales of ATC and a direct to DVD thing happens. As long as it's directed by Jason i'm all for it.

I would still rather just see GB20 be it's own thing.
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By Kingpin
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#4912514
Wow. I just don't even know what to say to this. Out of all the things ever said to me on this forum, that has to win some kind of prize. You explaining that people have different tastes was cute though. You must be a blast at parties lol.
Let's not slip back into old habits now, Rich.
Downvote aren't a big deal. Complaining about someone downvoting you comes off as a bit petty & a tad thin skinned.
Except some of the downvoting has been pretty petty. It's been done to me, I've seen it done to a number of other users, and each downvote does move a post closer towards the content being hidden.
You think asking how someone can tolerate the remake is "basically saying they aren't a true fan"? Interesting. I would say anyone arriving to that conclusion is reading into things waaaay too much.
If it's not inferring that someone isn't a "true fan", then there's the alternate issue that it infers someone could have "lesser standards", or that they just don't care about what is, or perceived as a poor-quality offering in the franchise.

I've seen the "true fan" nonsense in person, and brought up in relation to the reboot. Some "fans" definitely view it as some sort of betrayal of your love for the franchise do have derived some sort of enjoyment out of the 2016 movie.
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By Sav C
#4912519
Except some of the downvoting has been pretty petty. It's been done to me, I've seen it done to a number of other users, and each downvote does move a post closer towards the content being hidden.
That reminds me, a year or two back I think we had some brief exchange about homeschooling, and I recall getting slightly riled and down voting one of your posts on the subject (and then removed the dislike, I think). Anyway, I have a tendency to feel bad about things for a long time, and that was one of those things. It was a little shabby on my part, and I'm sorry about it.
By Styrofoam_Guy
#4912536
Another hear hear for GB:ATC. Without it I would not have returned to the franchise. We would not have new members joining up or some new gadgets and props that we can make. Without it I believe these forums would be dead. I look at the BSG and Stargate forums as an example. Without new content to discuss people will move on.

Without it people would be still hoping for a GB3 that would never come because Bill Murray would be against it. So even if you hate GB:ATC you will have to admit that we would not be getting GB3 without it.
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By RichardLess
#4912606
Wow. I just don't even know what to say to this. Out of all the things ever said to me on this forum, that has to win some kind of prize. You explaining that people have different tastes was cute though. You must be a blast at parties lol.
Let's not slip back into old habits now, Rich.
Downvote aren't a big deal. Complaining about someone downvoting you comes off as a bit petty & a tad thin skinned.
Except some of the downvoting has been pretty petty. It's been done to me, I've seen it done to a number of other users, and each downvote does move a post closer towards the content being hidden.
You think asking how someone can tolerate the remake is "basically saying they aren't a true fan"? Interesting. I would say anyone arriving to that conclusion is reading into things waaaay too much.
If it's not inferring that someone isn't a "true fan", then there's the alternate issue that it infers someone could have "lesser standards", or that they just don't care about what is, or perceived as a poor-quality offering in the franchise.

I've seen the "true fan" nonsense in person, and brought up in relation to the reboot. Some "fans" definitely view it as some sort of betrayal of your love for the franchise do have derived some sort of enjoyment out of the 2016 movie.
Fair enough. But I really didn't mean anything by the "tolerate" comment, I swear. I'm not inferring anything. It's just interesting to me how tastes can be varied. Like I said, I've been on the other side of the true fan BS via my love of the Star Wars prequels so I can understand what it's like. I'm just not sure I would feel my fandom coming into judgment if someone wondered in an honest to goodness way what it is that others see in something that I just can't see.
By Jangonate
#4912609
I really like ATC. I'm in the middle of watching it in 3D, which is really, really nice. Like, seriously, the 3D is some of the best I've seen.

The biggest shortcoming for this movie's success, and Dan points it out, is the budget. If it was given a more realistic budget, like one for a comedy and not for a Marvel movie, this thing would've been considered successful.

Still, the scene of Holtzmann in Time Square firing dual blasters at ghosts is pretty epic. The score in that scene highlights it wonderfully.
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By SSJmole
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I really like ATC. I'm in the middle of watching it in 3D, which is really, really nice. Like, seriously, the 3D is some of the best I've seen.

The biggest shortcoming for this movie's success, and Dan points it out, is the budget. If it was given a more realistic budget, like one for a comedy and not for a Marvel movie, this thing would've been considered successful.

Still, the scene of Holtzmann in Time Square firing dual blasters at ghosts is pretty epic. The score in that scene highlights it wonderfully.
It's a fantastic movie. Only negative for me is extended edition as some jokes they changed I preferred theatrical. But it's a great movie.

The staypuft balloon made me grin like a child watching it and the "exactly how I pictured my death" line was just hilarious.

And yes the time Square scene is epic
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By Alphagaia
#4912920
O yes, the Time Square scene IS epic.





https://youtu.be/jYpYTpKuT_k

Wow, I just noticed the pack reads 1984 when Holtzmann is done blasting the Thin Man. Thought they only did that on the posters!
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By RichRyan1507
#4914049
I wish I could make myself like it. I really do. I kept an open mind about it, but after watching it, I almost wished that I hadn't. I thought it'd be what killed the franchise, but it may just be responsible for Sony giving the green light to the 2020 film, so I'm glad about that.

I hate to be a negative Nelly about anything GB related, but that movie was such a bummer for me. Mr. Plinketts review on Red Letter Media definitely reflects how I feel about it.

Those of you that liked it: I'm glad that you did.

Carry on!
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By Alphagaia
#4914204
Some would say it's epic, some would say it's very cringy.
Ow, I can completely understand why people think it's cringy, especially if they aren't on board with the reboot in the first place.

But you are right that opinions can vary. I wish it wouldn't be such a big deal, but on the internet it sure can be.
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By deadderek
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I wish I could make myself like it. I really do. I kept an open mind about it, but after watching it, I almost wished that I hadn't. I thought it'd be what killed the franchise, but it may just be responsible for Sony giving the green light to the 2020 film, so I'm glad about that.

I hate to be a negative Nelly about anything GB related, but that movie was such a bummer for me. Mr. Plinketts review on Red Letter Media definitely reflects how I feel about it.

Those of you that liked it: I'm glad that you did.

Carry on!
Plinket SHREDDED it. Hits on all the perfect notes as to why it's a very poor movie.

Now the reboot is done for, time to move on.
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By Alphagaia
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Come on, we already have a thread for Plinket, can we at least keep this one without the vitrol?

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