Discuss the Ghostbusters Comic from IDW, as well as the now defunct Ghostbusters: Legion series.
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By Josh Foote
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I picked #4 up today. Loved it!!
By Threadender
#366994
The shop I frequent had everything in except the #3 second printing. Anyone else?

Looking at the #2 second printing cover, anyone spot the entities? I think so far he confirmed the Gulper Ghost in the middle. Wondering what else are easter eggs...
None at my bookstore. Either he's just not getting the variations or there's another GB fan in my town. :whatever:
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By ECT0-1
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Here's an Easter egg easy to miss: the helicopter pilot is based on Roger Murdock from AIRPLANE!, as played by Kareem Abdul-Jabaar.

The map in the PCOC section is from Making Ghostbusters.

Also in PCOC, the bag of Stay Puft Marshmallows is actually the fan made bag Guyver posted about here back in 2009 (look carefully at the two photos, the marshmallow imperfections are the same).
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By TristanJones
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Looking at the #2 second printing cover, anyone spot the entities? I think so far he confirmed the Gulper Ghost in the middle. Wondering what else are easter eggs...
There's a terror dog, the taxi driver, three imps annnnd... I think that's it...!
By SpaceCase
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My copy of #4 hasn't come yet.

Depression...gloominess...

I think I'm going to go find a corner and cry for a while.

:(
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By Kingpin
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I finally got issue 4 today, and on the whole I greatly enjoyed it, it's already segueing into the next story involving Fantastic Land.

But, if I had to detail some criticism... it's that I felt the issue could've been a five parter.
The final battle with Idulnas seemed frustratingly short following the build-up over the past three issues, as well as his threats in the presence of, and away from the Ghostbusters... the battle with Stay Puft helped create a more definite ending, but I felt Idulnas's demise was over far too quickly, even if there's a good chance he'll show up again.

I also wish the story had spanned a fifth issue, so that it'd break the barrier of the four-issue restriction we'd gotten used to with the miniseries, I feel it would've been a solid note in saying "this is a proper on-going series, and we're here to stay".

The only other criticism, is that Jim Silver's apartment Building and 550 Central Park west being two separate structures (yet identical beside the roof cap) has gotten far too confusing... why not just settle with the Gozer Building?


As for Jim, well, based on all the other members of the Gozerian pantheon, Zuul, Vinc, Gozer himself... and Egon's commentary back in issue 2, I'd guess poor Jim Silvers bit the dust once he was infested with Idulnas.
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Despite that, like I said, very enjoyable, and I look forward to the next story when it starts in January. I also like how Peck is an ongoing annoyance, but not an out-and-out villain, it leaves room for PCOC and the Ghostbusters to work together for the greater good some day.
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By ECT0-1
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To be fair, Ben, there IS another similar building to the Shandor at 241 Central Park West on 84th Street. So, having the two buildings, while initially confusing, could actually be done. Actually, if my GB comics had continued as I'd hoped I had planned to use 241 as a back-up Shandor building constructed by Shandor.

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By Kingpin
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Spooky (no pun intended), yeah, I can see the similarities, helps that it was designed by the same architects as 55 Central Park West. Speaking of 241, there's a metal model that can be purchased of it:

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By MotherPussBucket
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So, the question is...not how many copies you've bought, but how many people you've gotten to buy the book? I've got 9 people at my local comic store purchasing the book.
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By mrmichaelt
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The final battle with Idulnas seemed frustratingly short following the build-up over the past three issues, as well as his threats in the presence of, and away from the Ghostbusters... the battle with Stay Puft helped create a more definite ending, but I felt Idulnas's demise was over far too quickly, even if there's a good chance he'll show up again.
True, most of the busts in this arc weren't that long in term of page count. But I agree, wish they got at least one shot in on Idulnas with one of the packs before he 'twirled his mustache,' did his 'fiddlesticks speech' then hightailed it out of there.
As for Jim, well, based on all the other members of the Gozerian pantheon, Zuul, Vinc, Gozer himself... and Egon's commentary back in issue 2, I'd guess poor Jim Silvers bit the dust once he was infested with Idulnas.
True, through the arc I was thinking there was a shot at Silver getting saved since Dana and Louis pulled through at the end of the first movie. But I guess the crossing the streams helped those two out.
Love the different styles of equipment from various sources like the EGB Proton Pack, or the Ecto-Grenades from The Bogeyman Cometh
The interesting thing while the Proton Grenade is unchanged in design from the Ghost Bomb, Winston's pack is a conglomerate of EGB equipment; the pack is the Extreme Ghostbusters version and the thrower looks more like Egon's Field Projector from "Killjoys" but with a Proton Cannister attached. At least I think so... Mr. Schoening?
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By Fritz
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After a delay due to holidays and a bout of sheer laziness...

Fritz Babbles About Ghostbusters #4:

Things I Liked About Ghostbusters #4:
I gotta admit, I was a little skeptical about bringing Walter Peck into things here. I saw it as one more way IDW going to overuse stuff from the first movie. But they've convinced me--he's great as not so much a villain, but as a foil: kind of serving as the Ghostbusters' asshole boss role, one we've never really seen before in GB lore. (Yeah, I guess it probably continues his role from the Video Game, but I've never played that. I'm not a gamer). It's especially funny watching Venkman deal with it; since his previous comedic foil, Slimer, is stuck in a fishtank, we gotta see him get comedically frustrated somehow. He can't mouth off to Peck too much, and certainly can't blast him and put him in a ghost trap. Even better, on the other hand, Janine gets to treat Peck with same respect she gives her "real" boss, Venkman, which is not much at all. No wonder Egon loves that gal so much.

The injokes are sparse this issue, but has one of my favorites yet: Peck's office is adorned with newspapers telling of his days with "BUFO", which is assumed to be the Bureau of Unidentified Flying Organisms, a reference to the agency Peck worked for in his one (sadly lackluster) animated appearance, "Big Trouble With Little Slimer". All that was missing was one of the fast dial buttons on his phone to read "Callahan" (Peck's laconic henchman in that episode).

Idulnas, for a character grounded in a mythos that has been waaaaay overused lately, at least represents some new twists, creepily writing himself into existance.

Venkman: "Is it me, or is [Egon] getting a little snippy?"

The fact that Janine is getting Rogered on her days off is really getting to him. That's my story and I'm sticking to it no matter what Erik Burnham or anyone else says.
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Things I Didn't Like So Much About Ghostbusters #4:
For all the success IDW has with the Idulnas story, please, for grife's sake, stay the sprock away from the Gozerian mythos for a while. One of the things GB2, for all of it's flaws, did right is have an enemy that didn't have a blessed thing to do with Gozer (Assinine Video Game retcon attempt ignored). It was a directive from J. Micheal Stracynski to the writers of The Real Ghostbusters to "forget about Gozer. He's history". But in recent years, suddenly everything has to somehow go back to Gozer: their enemies are Gozer's father, or his concubine, or Gozer worshippers. With all the mythology that the property can, and has, drawn upon even before making stuff up (Gozer, after all, does not appear in any real summations of Sumerian mythology) the constant dipping into this till feels uncreative and overdone. Quit now before IDW ends up like the Marvel UK comics and suddenly Gozer has a lumberjack relative named Horg. (Yeah, I wish I was kidding about that...) I realize Idulnas's return is practically inevitable, but hold off on it for a while, please.

I will also register a note of dissent to the prevailing opinion of "Whoa! You're gonna put in the Rookies from both version of the Video Game! Cool!" I won't say it's a bad idea; I'm going to wait and see what happens, but on the whole, stories that start with "Ray, Egon, Peter, Winston, and some character you've never heard of before get out of the ECTO-1" is the start of very many of the worst fan fictions.

Now, I will say I'll give IDW some rope on this one. I liked Extreme Ghostbusters, after all, and want to see if IDW can take these three ciphers and actually make them worth the affection they get despite not having any discernable personalities or even a word of dialog. But one word of warning: I enjoyed EGB because it really was about the new characters; the old guard guest starred to various extents, but it was the new guys' show. (The fact that RGB had been off the air for six years helped too). Throwing in a bunch of new faces into a currently running project when you already feature a perfect mix of four main characters and two strong supporting characters poses its own dangers. If I read a story with them in it and my new nicknames for the Rookies are "Jason", "Catharine", and "Donald", you'll know exactly what that means.

But IDW hasn't let me down in awhile, so I'm hopeful.
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See you next month.
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By Josh Foote
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I believe your missing the first part.
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By TristanJones
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I will also register a note of dissent to the prevailing opinion of "Whoa! You're gonna put in the Rookies from both version of the Video Game! Cool!" I won't say it's a bad idea; I'm going to wait and see what happens, but on the whole, stories that start with "Ray, Egon, Peter, Winston, and some character you've never heard of before get out of the ECTO-1" is the start of very many of the worst fan fictions.

Now, I will say I'll give IDW some rope on this one. I liked Extreme Ghostbusters, after all, and want to see if IDW can take these three ciphers and actually make them worth the affection they get despite not having any discernable personalities or even a word of dialog. But one word of warning: I enjoyed EGB because it really was about the new characters; the old guard guest starred to various extents, but it was the new guys' show. (The fact that RGB had been off the air for six years helped too). Throwing in a bunch of new faces into a currently running project when you already feature a perfect mix of four main characters and two strong supporting characters poses its own dangers. If I read a story with them in it and my new nicknames for the Rookies are "Jason", "Catharine", and "Donald", you'll know exactly what that means.

See you next month.
People are going crazy about the rookie reference! I just thought it'd be fun to give them official names... Don't count on seeing them any time soon... or possibly ever...

in the meantime, here's something for you all to chew on...

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By robbritton
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robbritton, thank you for your question as well. The new pack in issue 3 is not based on the Zootfly design, however I can see the similarity. I remember seeing a trailer for the game, but it was just driving in the Ecto 1. When designing the pack, I referenced a lot of airline engines. We wanted something big and bulky that packed some punch.
Thanks for the answer! I think I have just become obsessed with looking for things where they may not be any - not that I'm complaining, though - the re-reads for references are every bit as fun!
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By Fritz
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#369330
He did whatever he did on this right before he died, I believe...
Cool. ...Give Shrewsbury Smith his manuscript? ;)
I just have to point out that according to the GBI supplement, Shrewsbury Smith died before Tobin; Smith died in 1924 and Tobin's disapperance was some time after that.

Of course, none of this is binding to IDW continuity. NOW Comics came up with their own completely different Tobin idea, after all.

:lol:
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By mrmichaelt
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I just have to point out that according to the GBI supplement, Shrewsbury Smith died before Tobin; Smith died in 1924 and Tobin's disappearance was some time after that.

Of course, none of this is binding to IDW continuity. NOW Comics came up with their own completely different Tobin idea, after all.
Yep. What was it Ray wrote - he guessed 10-15 years later he disappeared? So far so good, Mr. Jones did slip in the 2nd edition of Tobin's Spirit Guide was printed in 1937 in I think it was #3's PCOC section. In the IDW canon, so far it seems like whatever happened to him happened in the mid-30's.

I always figured there could have been two Tobin's interested in the same subject matter. ;)

EDIT: Some really cooler news than usual:
Tristan Jones is working on a 24 page back up story for Ghostbusters. Jones will both write and draw. The story will be part of the regular series in place of the PCOC material and told in six page parts over a four issue event in mid-2012. The story has nothing to do with Tobin's Spirit Guide but if this story is successful, he will pitch something to do with that in a similar format to what this story will be.
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And the PCOC stuff will be in the upcoming trade paperback after all! announcement
By Megalomaniac
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I've been getting caught up on reading these new comics, since my other latest hobby(GI Joe) grabbed a lot of my attention. So here's my commentary(finally)....

I like how there's a balance being kept between keeping it movie style while throwing in elements from the RGB cartoons, like for example, Ray's pink pjs, and the Dopey Dog stuffed animal from "The Boogieman Cometh".

And the witty banter, keep it coming! Had to stifle my laughter as I was reading the comics on the bus, and didn't want people to give me weird "who is that nutter?" looks.

Third, the right balance has been struck when it comes to Janine. She's a perfect combination of her movie and RGB S1 versions. Don't change a thing with her.
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By Erik Burnham
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And I'm pretty sure that THIS time, Tristan's 24 page backup isn't going in the trade. (But hey, maybe I'll be wrong again!) lol.

You guys, Ghostbusters has gone and improved it's standing on Diamond's top 300 From 214 (#2) to 190 (#3) to 180 (#4.) Upward momentum is upward momentum, so thank you!!

#5 out next week!
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By Josh Foote
#370397
I can't wait for #5!

You guys are really doing a great job.
By GhstbstrLMLIII
#370515
Nice. Is that....
the book on Peter's desk - "The End of the World" by the psychic ("Milt") at the beginning of GB2?"
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