[JurorNo.2]

But by that logic shouldn't we be going by the "Top Critics" rating, rather than the open rating?

If you do, then you'll have to take into account the New York Times' extremely unflattering reviews of GB84 over the years. It's obvious they felt Murray and Aykroyd were great actors, but that GB was a bit beneath them. But there were other critics who were more than happy to go along with the ride, even if they weren't as "Top" as the Times.

The point is, different critics have different points of view, and you have to take them all into account and just weigh them accordingly.

[savintheday]

If the behind the scenes featurette includes footage of catfighting actresses and a crying director, I might just buy this.

[zeta otaku]

Really liking the steel book cover! That might have to be the version I get

[deadderek]

Bottom line, both audience and critics liked the movie.

Not enough to save it at the box office.

[Styrofoam_Guy]

Hmm normally I wait a few years before getting the DVD/ Blue Ray as they inevitably release a second DVD/Blue Ray with more stuff but this seems to have a lot of extra stuff already.

[deadderek]

Hmm normally I wait a few years before getting the DVD/ Blue Ray as they inevitably release a second DVD/Blue Ray with more stuff but this seems to have a lot of extra stuff already.

I can understand your concern as Sony had double and triple dipped us on previous Ghostbusters Blu-ray releases.

[Alphagaia]

Bottom line, both audience and critics liked the movie.

Not enough to save it at the box office.

Yeah, word of mouth did not help the B.O. after all the (uncalled for imo) drama.
Still, people might discover it on a later date, and the non fanboy people who did see it have a good chance of getting added to the fanbase and discover the wonders that is GB1, and if they are like me, like GB2 just as much as GB:ATC.
There is still a lot of potential (franchise)money in the air for movies like this, especially because the audience mostly enjoyed watching it.

[SpaceBallz]

"They'll discover down the road that people who are not fans of Ghostbusters did enjoy this movie a lot."

I'll have to agree with you there, Alphagaia.

[MightyAni]

So I'm not the only one that thinks Kristen looks exceptionally hot in all the promo images?

ALL of the GB2016 "black" promo posters are dead sexy, in my opinion. Especially Kristen's and Kate's. (Ohhhh, Kate.)
Leslie's is badass and fearless, and Melissa's just looks like she's determined to blaze a trail of destruction over any ghosts that dare get in front of her proton stream. Really, really wonderful work. I wish I had that kind of artistic talent.

[EJLambert]

Most cover art these days are pretty bad imo. I want Drew Struzan to come out of retirement.

[Alphagaia]

"They'll discover down the road that people who are not fans of Ghostbusters did enjoy this movie a lot."

I'll have to agree with you there, Alphagaia.

I think I finally understand why the haters insist that Feig called all of us assholes, instead of only a loud minority.

You guys either warp or fail to comprehend meaning.

[featofstrength]

Thank goodness for those stickers, or else people would have to actually form their own opinions.

Do you think some of the folks pushing the Tomato thing now might be some of the same that told us to disregard trailers/early reviews and form our own opinions in the beginning?

[JurorNo.2]

We're only "pushing the Tomato thing" because it's so ludicrous to think its presence on a DVD is some kind of big Sony conspiracy.

[featofstrength]

We're only "pushing the Tomato thing" because it's so ludicrous to think its presence on a DVD is some kind of big Sony conspiracy.

Movie isn't out yet: "Don't let bad trailers and early reviews help you decide if you want to see the movie or not."

Movie is out: "If you haven't seen it yet, look...73% of all reviews! Fresh!! FREEEEEEEEEEEEESH!"

If you still see red, it's still "Fresh!"

[JurorNo.2]

I only told people to keep trailers in perspective. Period.

And again, if people were going "FRESH!" it's only because so many people were going "IT'S GOTTA SUCK YMAO!" for months on end.

[SpaceBallz]

I think I finally understand why the haters insist that Feig called all of us assholes, instead of only a loud minority.

You guys either warp or fail to comprehend meaning.

Hey pal, don't blame us for the movie tranking. Blame Feig and his cast members for openly and publicly arguing with internet trolls like a group of people at a bar that had one too many tequila shots yelling across the club at their exes for over a year every week.

[JurorNo.2]

I think I finally understand why the haters insist that Feig called all of us assholes, instead of only a loud minority.

You guys either warp or fail to comprehend meaning.

Hey pal, don't blame us for the movie tranking. Blame Feig and his cast members for openly and publicly arguing with internet trolls like a group of people at a bar that had one too many tequila shots yelling across the club at their exes for over a year every week.

Um, no. The general public doesn't mind trolls being taken to task online. People are tired of the Internet becoming next to useless.

The trailer didn't generate hype. And that has zero to do with the quality of the movie. But apparently the movie's BO wasn't that different from Feig's over comedies. That's who went to see the movie. They count too, not just fanboys.

[featofstrength]

I only told people to keep trailers in perspective. Period.

And again, if people were going "FRESH!" it's only because so many people were going "IT'S GOTTA SUCK YMAO!" for months on end.

I didn't mean to single you out. Just pointing out some hypocrisy in what "some" fans said then and what they say now concerning how to take reviews.

I remember hearing "It's GONNA suck," but very few able to articulate compelling arguments to back that up.

People are tired of the Internet becoming next to useless.

C'mon, Prince...how else would I have been able to show large amounts of people at great distances what a real 73% "fresh" tomato looks like using time lapse photography?

Its never useless as a tool...just misused.

[JurorNo.2]

I only told people to keep trailers in perspective. Period.

And again, if people were going "FRESH!" it's only because so many people were going "IT'S GOTTA SUCK YMAO!" for months on end.

I didn't mean to single you out. Just pointing out some hypocrisy in what "some" fans said then and what they say now concerning how to take reviews.

I remember hearing "It's GONNA suck," but very few able to articulate compelling arguments to back that up.

People are tired of the Internet becoming next to useless.

C'mon, Prince...how else would I have been able to show large amounts of people at great distances what a real 73% "fresh" tomato looks like using time lapse photography?

Its never useless as a tool...just misused.

Because too many fans (on both "sides") think it's all about numbers, like it's a math problem you can solve with a formula.

The time lapse video was pretty cool! You're just not going to catch me defending the Internet any time soon. More misuse than use at this point, IMO.

Oh yes...I meant to write GONNA. Thanks for pointing that out, lol.

[featofstrength]

Because too many fans (on both "sides") think it's all about numbers, like it's a math problem you can solve with a formula.

Pretty sure SONY had an equation or two on an Excel sheet:
x + y = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[JurorNo.2]

Because too many fans (on both "sides") think it's all about numbers, like it's a math problem you can solve with a formula.

Pretty sure SONY had an equation or two on an Excel sheet:
x + y = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Add to that the reputation of the film. That's the variable you guys keep discounting.

[Kingpin]

some of the same that told us to disregard trailers/early reviews and form our own opinions in the beginning?

Some folks did feel justifiably vindicated in their belief that the trailers weren't a good representation of the final product, they certainly weren't with regards to Leslie's character.

[SpaceBallz]

You mean how Feig and Jones said that Patty's character was a "NYC Historian" until the film was released?

[JurorNo.2]

Well she basically is. I don't need for her to have a degree. That just means your Daddy gave you money for college (coming from someone whose Daddy spent a lot ).

[SpaceBallz]

Well she basically is. I don't need for her to have a degree. That just means your Daddy gave you money for college (coming from someone whose Daddy spent a lot ).

That'd be like calling me a Sommelier after I drink a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon.

[JurorNo.2]

Nah, Patty does know more than your average New Yorker would, by far.

[featofstrength]

some of the same that told us to disregard trailers/early reviews and form our own opinions in the beginning?

Some folks did feel justifiably vindicated in their belief that the trailers weren't a good representation of the final product, they certainly weren't with regards to Leslie's character.

True. She turned out fine, but I could find that tidbit out from some of the same reviews that let us in on all that doesn't work.

[JurorNo.2]

Personally, I found out she was fine the first time I saw the trailer.

And reviews aren't tell to reveal what does or doesn't work, like it's a verifiable fact. And, it's not a math problem. And again, you just have to be aware of who the critics are and where they're coming from.

[deadderek]

You guys either warp or fail to comprehend meaning.

Goes both ways.

[Scuba Steve]

"Certified rotten by 'Top Critics'" doesn't have the same ring to it.