SSJmole wrote:HunterCC wrote:Again, Star wars movies starring a female protagonist haven't embedded themselves in controversy, before and after GB16. Why not?
To be fair a) attractive model like female not regular. B) she wasn't only hero there was Han and fin ect.... C) they hid her in some markets and toys like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/star-wa ... ly-hasbro/ Hell in China they shrank the black guy http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star- ... 201653494/
A) Rey looks regular for a teenage girl. Rey is estimated at 19 at most, and the target demographic was probably younger. Two of the GB16 cast look attractive to me (Wiig and McKinnon), tastes of others may vary .
B) That Star Wars went with a mixed cast, as opposed to a straight out gender swap with the male characters dumbed down, is a strong credit to the Star Wars makers and fanbase, and makes the GB16 crowd look PC at best and misandrist at worst. Between those two groups, it's the GB16 not the SW makers and supporters being sexist here, if you want to look at both sides as you describe
C) Now the Chinese poster is bad, lol. Definitely should criticize the marketing campaign there, and why it was thought that would sell in China. The toys...I read the % of toys bought for girls is rising, though whole numbers lacking, so might be a business decision. But still looks bad equality-wise on disney and partners. Personally, given how Frozen merch is still selling, looks like another bone-headed and and sexist move by hollywood.
Hey, neither examples you cite above have nothing to do he online controversy Sony/Feig/etc. ran with!
SSJmole wrote:They played it smart and gave the racists and sexists reason to think it won't be what they think. Sony was proud to have women and got hated for it.
Say what? Are you trying to say a gender mixed cast is what racist and sexists want? And BTW, remember what "color" Finn was? I don't recall him falling into any stereotypes like Jones character did either, even though Jones had other better lines, the racist "loud black woman" lines were still in GB16. If that's not what you're saying, please elaborate, because your statement above makes no sense.
Sony OTOH, wasn't hated because they like women. They got hated because among other things, they were proud to bash men onscreen and in their marketing campaign, they and supporters were proud to bash men (man-babies) when responding to criticism.
SSJmole wrote:Yes some people on other side had it but come on stuff like http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/3 ... er-website was much worse. She starred in a film that's her job yet racist attacks and sexist attacks too. It was stupid.
It was a nasty flamewar both ways, that Sony and Co. kept going for marketing and possible misandrist reasons.
And please don't make Jones look like the innocent victim here. The hacking of her phone was OB, but look at the other side of the flamewar (yes, breitbart, like I've said before they and Jones deserve each other) and tell me Jones isn't racist as well, if you are going to judge both sides fairly.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/2 ... r-history/ And yes, she and Feig egged it on. The Breitbart quotes of her point to this, so does Feig's own words about Jones being a "brawler".
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/mo ... rolls.html Pro-tip, don't complain about a flamewar when you are a party to keeping it alive.
SSJmole wrote:The point people made is ghostbusters does not deserve its hate when films like "stare at aprils ass" I mean the new ninja turtles got a free pass. Probably cause it was an excuse to stare at hot woman so we can excuse that reboot.
That's point it doesn't deserve this "worst film ever" reputation when its not even in top 10 worst films of last 5 years. Hell fantastic four = reboot, goes against everything fantastic four and was just dull as hell.
The trailer was the most hated ever. Call it a combination of a trailer even people who liked the movie said wasn't good, and the flame baiting campaign referenced above. The film is mostly rated mediocre to bad, and a flop for its investment. BTW, I don't recall fans especially geeks giving TMNT2014 any pass, including how the character of April O'Neal was treated. But then again those film makers didn't go out of their way to start flamewars like Sony did.