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By groschopf
#4905055
The popular theory thus far is Tiamat returning -- and that certainly makes sense, given the "chaos" tweet. Her re-appearance would hopefully include a more satisfying resolution than the previous arc and maybe tie up some open questions:

• does anything/anyone aside from future "Fright Feature" Ghostbusters travel through time?
• how did Vigo and Scoleri Brothers get out?
• who was Tiyah's weird friend?
• did anything else escape the grid during venting?
• where's the Goze at?

Nonetheless, I can't help but get hung up on some of the elements from the preview for issue #2. Coma Peter starts off in a dark space and approaches a door... just like with the hungry manitou. The entity makes reference to making Peter comfortable... just like the hungry manitou. The vision of Dana resembles Peter's earlier memories, not the older and short-haired Dana Tiamat possessed.

None of that excludes Tiamat's involvement. If anything, spreading some escaped spirits around from a containment breach sounds like her thing. But I'm wondering if what Peter is encountering in his coma is her or an earlier adversary he beat soundly with psychology.

I may be reading too much into the visuals. Tiamat's incursions into people's heads always occurred against a sort of cosmic purple backdrop, but that might not be a hard and fast rule. Maybe using the dark void space was just an aesthetic decision based on Peter's condition. Maybe its even part of another "psyche-out."
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Either way, I guess we'll know soon enough.
By philmorgan81
#4905057
The popular theory thus far is Tiamat returning -- and that certainly makes sense, given the "chaos" tweet. Her re-appearance would hopefully include a more satisfying resolution than the previous arc and maybe tie up some open questions:

• does anything/anyone aside from future "Fright Feature" Ghostbusters travel through time?
• how did Vigo and Scoleri Brothers get out?
• who was Tiyah's weird friend?
• did anything else escape the grid during venting?
• where's the Goze at?

Nonetheless, I can't help but get hung up on some of the elements from the preview for issue #2. Coma Peter starts off in a dark space and approaches a door... just like with the hungry manitou. The entity makes reference to making Peter comfortable... just like the hungry manitou. The vision of Dana resembles Peter's earlier memories, not the older and short-haired Dana Tiamat possessed.

None of that excludes Tiamat's involvement. If anything, spreading some escaped spirits around from a containment breach sounds like her thing. But I'm wondering if what Peter is encountering in his coma is her or an earlier adversary he beat soundly with psychology.

I may be reading too much into the visuals. Tiamat's incursions into people's heads always occurred against a sort of cosmic purple backdrop, but that might not be a hard and fast rule. Maybe using the dark void space was just an aesthetic decision based on Peter's condition. Maybe its even part of another "psyche-out."
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Either way, I guess we'll know soon enough.
Yeah I am totally with you there. I love how this event has got us all talking and trying to figure out what the next big twist could be.

Now Erik tweeted that he didn't want to spoil anything. However there are a lot of hints that point to Tiamat. I have no doubt that she is involved, but I was wondering if Tiamat and the escaped Ghosts from the grid were again just the tip of the iceberg.
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This is going to be so much fun. Bring on Wednesday. :) :) :)
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By Peter Venkman Jr.
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Hope that Peter is okay, seeing him the hospital again had me worried. I would not be surprised if this is the Schenectady Entity messing with him again. Very pleased that Crossing Over #2 is out this week, rather than next. Between this and Batman/ Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #6 I am in for some fun reading this week.
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By Fritz
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#4905065
Very pleased that Crossing Over #2 is out this week, rather than next.
Mixed feelings myself. IDW's Disney line has been logjammed due to illness in Disney's approval office...well, it looks like the dam has burst and there's three overdue Disneys coming out this week along with Crossing Over and some other stuff I buy. My wallet will not be happy this week. :lol:
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By mrmichaelt
#4905071
• how did Vigo and Scoleri Brothers get out?
I was under the impression that Tiamat freed Vigo out of the painting to test the Ghostbusters and observe their tactics. The Scoleri Brothers, I admit, can be open ended. Did she pull them from the unit somehow, did Vigo create echoes or copies of them once he got juiced up on Hart Island, did they previously escape during Ghostbusters: The Video Game or Ghostbusters: Infestation?
• who was Tiyah's weird friend?
Kas, the mother of the 'prime' and SOS universe's Bridget Gibbons.
• where's the Goze at?
Tiamat did say Gozer would recover and continue its quest of going dimension to dimension destroying planets. So presumably, business as usual back on schedule.
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By HauntedWallflower
#4905088
VTC #17 is RGB Ray.
Page from CO #2. Janine shushing the Busters and the coloured version of the derp-slap Peter gets from her. I feel a little bit hopeful from seeing Waltz's caption about Janine "ALWAYS being in charge." Especially the emphasis he put on the "always." Then again, I'm also expecting an epic ass-pull to happen over time, as much as I'm sick of those.
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By mrmichaelt
#4905090
VTC #17 is RGB Ray.
Love seeing what degrees these RGB versions have. heh.
Page from CO #2. Janine shushing the Busters and the coloured version of the derp-slap Peter gets from her. I feel a little bit hopeful from seeing Waltz's caption about Janine "ALWAYS being in charge." Especially the emphasis he put on the "always." Then again, I'm also expecting an epic ass-pull to happen over time, as much as I'm sick of those.
Actually, looks like a page from #3 -- sometimes he combines promotions - the WIP Tom posted of the smack was from #3 and it looks like the previous page was the SOS team asking if the teleportation unit can time travel since they're from a dimension where their GBs are older. Something Erik hinted at for #3.

Looks like Jenny comes with a new flightsuit for her corporeal form. Knowing Dan, has to be a nod to someone. I think the Alberta/Calgary Ghostbuster, Candace has a similar flightsuit.
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By mrmichaelt
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July solicits are out.
Crossing Over #5
A headless horseman. A haunted brewery. The complicated nature of temporal mechanics across the dimensions. The Ghostbusters can handle all of that, no sweat. But a sinister force is on the horizon, one they barely survived before, and at a great personal sacrifice. Tiamat made a deal to leave the Ghostbusters' earth... but what's the fun of being a god of chaos if you can't find a few loopholes? Mass Hysteria is in full effect as CROSSING OVER continues!
Only cover shown is the RI by Emma Vieceli.
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By HauntedWallflower
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Well, we can all finally say it....Big T is officially gonna bring the multi-dimensional roof down!!!!
Seriously? The only pages of Janine's future-fretting were all in the preview only? C'mon, Sony, lighten up already!

So the Dana in Peter's head is actually NOT Ray's Guide, but HIS (Peter's) Guide instead. Are they? If so, interesting. This could mean that each Prime GB has their own Spirit Guide, although Janine has had a visit from Ray's one. Egon's could be the Queen herself, Marie Laveau? *cheeky fate-tempting grin* Winston's already got God's guidance, but who's to say that he'll have a Guide too?

Jenny was awesome. If Peter can't remember the Dana Guide's dream conversation, then she can. Jumping into heads like that to assist internal battles, good thing she's a GB ally, cos this skill better be useful in future issues (And arcs! *side-eyes Sony*) EDIT: Never mind.
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By mrmichaelt
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Main Story
FIREHOUSE

Erik keeps coming up with ways for me/us to HATE Ron even more. I wish Winston... ergh!

But nice touch to pick up on Holtzmann's speech to the others at the end of the ATC movie.

"They can't overcharge you anymore." lmao, Janine. And calling Peter a cockroach. haha! But yes! Janine is hesitant because she's not a bureaucrat and rule-driven like Peck. Totally agree with that.

Okay, so the Containment Unit will explode and take out New York at least. 20/20 hindsight, this sorta backs up Ray's mention they should look into off-site storage. If they had a secondary unit (granted the one in the Ecto-2 RV is empty), then in theory, they could have just transferred the sufficient amount into the main unit -- end-o-problem. Eh, but I guess, depending on what left the unit, should they bother to recapture or not.

Gareth Dibello. Not that was a "fun" one. "Messy... ?" lmao. Cringed to see part of his arm. But I guess post-101, they figured out how to prevent the same debacle and properly disposed of that ectoplasm off-screen.

THE MENTAL REALM

Count me on the same boat as Jenny. I'm really skeptical if that's another spirit guide like Ray's. Gozer did mess with Ray using his form during Mass Hysteria. She could have been Tiamat manipulating them towards continuing their interdimensional explorations with reverse psychology like Jenny called her out on. Not sure until I saw the #5 solicit but take in mind, Winston's sacrifice was that Tiamat would leave their dimension. The deal didn't cover all the other dimensions. Got a feeling Tiamat have a presence there as the Ghostbusters search for the ghosts. Upsetting the balance and creating interdimensional chaos sounds like something up Tiamat's alley.

But on the flip side, still interested what these "predators" are -- although at the same time that got a "Really?" at the introduction of more characters and expanding on the science of dimensions. Shrug. Safe to say we'll see them in later issues of the arc.

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OMG. All those teams... if I hadn't seen Get Real #2 and those portals and remembered these are some of the same ones -- I'd be even more worried about Dan's sanity. Especially the NES sprites. Surprised to see the team from Slimer! - as even Dan rarely references that show. But hey. EGBs, Melanie, SOS team, Chicago team, Mike and Robobuster!!! Yes. Touched to see Kevin Tanaka in there. Eh, he was probably just happened to be walking across the room. His ability to move boxes is surely an important skill in this arc. :P And c'mon, does he have like 10 of those blue shirts in his closet. ;)
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Janine's Memo
RGB, nice! Loved seeing what differences got highlighted on this memo, some of which have come up on the Virtual Trading Cards; some not like a nod to Cait Banner from GB 101.

Loved it was mentioned the RGB had no hiatus between Gozer and Vigo like the prime universe. I'm sure it was long speculated by fans but it's something I also concluded once I started thinking about continuity for the wiki.

Laughed at the nod to the "cartoon-like effect" and revisiting the discussion from Get Real #2 about an in-universe explanation for Dan's easter eggs.
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Easter Eggs so far
*Cover A
**On the Ecto-2 from The Real Ghostbusters are Abby Yates and RGB Egon with his P.K.E. Meter and Helmet Goggles on.
**On the bottom of the page is Eduardo Rivera from Extreme Ghostbusters and Alan Crendall from Ghostbusters: Sanctum of Slime.
*Cover B
**The cover is a homage to the DC vs. Marvel covers.
**Egon is wearing the Ecto Suit based on the Molecular Destabilizer Suit from The Real Ghostbusters episode "X-Mas Marks the Spot".
**Erin and Ron have the Kenner Ghost Poppers.
**Janine is in her yellow outfit from Ghostbusters II and has on the Compact Pack.
**Garrett Miller from Extreme Ghostbusters appears.
**The ghosts include:
***Ghash
***Victor
***Pull Speed Ahead Ghost with its T-Stick Ghost
***X-Cop from Kenner's Haunted Humans figures
*Cover RI
**On the cover are:
***Ellen Gold
***The Orphan ghosts
***Special Agent Melanie Ortiz
***Peter
***Egon
***Holtzmann
*What Came Before
**Connla and his army from Ghostbusters Annual 2018 are alluded to.
**The events of the end of Annual 2018 and Crossing Over #1 are summarized.
*Dramatis Personae
**Walter Peck and Jimmy's bios are included but they don't appear in the issue.
*Page 1
**Holtzmann is wearing her coveralls from the Aldridge case in the 2016 movie.
**Ron is wearing his stock "Yes, It's My Real Name" T-shirt that Chevy Chase wore in the mid-1970s.
**Behind Holtzmann, in the corner of the frame is the credit for John DeCuir and Bernie Brillstein in the "They're Here to Save the World" poster of the 1984 movie.
*Page 2
**Once again, the third floor is modeled after the second floor in Ghostbusters: The Video Game, Stylized Versions, including:
***The map of New York City
***The loading screen
***The Ghost Capture arcade
**Ron refers to his conversation with Egon and Ray in Annual 2018 while their headed out to Grand Central Station.
*Page 3
**Holtzmann mentions Abby, Erin, Patty, and Kevin.
**Holtzmann mentions meeting the Prime team in Ghostbusters 101.
**In panel 4, the middle arcade the Firehouse 2nd floor in Ghostbusters: The Video Game, Stylized Versions?
**In panel 5, on the shelf is a can of Ecto Cooler 2016.
**Holtzmann refers to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as alien lizards.
**In panel 6, on the two green screens are from?
*Page 4
**Jenny hates hospitals.
**Janine is wearing a coat her animated counterpart wore in The Real Ghostbusters episode "Ghost Busted" when they found Slimer mistakenly helping a jewel thief.
**Janine and Jenny are at a Pequod's, the coffee chain introduced back in Volume 1.
**Jenny's outfit is based on an outfit worn by Donna Dixon in the early 1980s TV Show "Bosom Buddies" season 2 episode 2 "There's No Business...".
**In panel 2, immediately right of Janine's left arm is a logo referencing El's Diner from The Real Ghostbusters episode "The Man Who Never Reached Home".
**In panel 2, in the drink case are:
***Top: ?
***Bottom: A carton of milk from Stanz' Dairy, a nod to the location and misspelled sign in The Real Ghostbusters episode "Dairy Farm".
**In panel 2, behind Jenny, are Ghostbusters themed snacks:
***Top: ?
***Middle: The Real Ghostbusters Potato Snacks, Cheese & Bacon (black bag)
***Bottom Left: The Real Ghostbusters Potato Snacks, Salt & Vinegar (blue bag)
***Bottom Right: ?
**Janine mentions Peter's next of kin.
**Janine mentions Walter Peck.
*Page 5
**Janine tells Jenny about the job offer Peck made to her last issue.
**On Peter's right is the Bruce doll that Janine delivered on Ray's behalf at the end of Volume 1 Issue #7.
**In panel 5, the clipboard on the table ?
*Page 6
**Peter does his Dah! from the first movie.
**Peter refers to when he was possessed by the Hungry Manitou during the Schenectady Fantastic Land bust in Volume 1 Issue #6 and #7 where he spoke to it in his mind.
**The voice's suggestion of "repossession" and Peter's quip about softballs is a nod to the 1990 movie "Repossessed" which as a parody of "The Exorcist".
**The glowing door is a nod to when Zuul possessed Dana Barrett in the first movie.
*Page 7
**The room recreates Dana's kitchen from the first movie in Chapter 14: Welcome Aboard.
**Peter's outfit is based on the one he wore to his initial investigation in Chapter 10: Checking Out Dana in the first movie.
**The entity takes on the form of Dana Barrett from the first montage in Chapter 14 in the first movie down to her chopping vegetables.
**Peter reveals Dana doesn't do broccoli.
***In the montage, Dana was chopping carrots and celery.
*Page 8
**Jenny jumping into Peter's mind was a last minute addition by Erik Burnham.
**Jenny's outfit is based on ?
*Page 10
**Ray and Egon talk about their experiment and Peter's accident from last issue.
**Holtzmann is eating from a stand-in for Pringles she ate in the 2016 movie at Aldridge. It appeared on last issue's Cover B but the whole name is currently unknown.
**Ron's outfit is based on one worn by Chevy Chase's character in "Caddyshack" when he gave Danny some advise during a tee-time.
*Page 11
**The Containment Unit opens like it did in The Real Ghostbusters episode "Cry Uncle" when Uncle Cyrus accidentally released the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
*Page 12
**When Ron was part of Janine's New Ghostbusters, the team encountered Gareth Dibello in Volume 2 Issue #2 at Central Park.
**Ron alludes to Melanie Ortiz. She got Dibello's attention by taunting him with the discovery of his victims' bodies.
*Page 13
**Multiple portals generate from the teleportation unit just like Ron and Holtzmann's unit did last issue.
*Page 15
**Egon alludes to when he was terrified by the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in the first movie.
*Page 16
**The entity conjures images of:
***Ellen Gold, who first appeared in Volume 1 Issue #2.
***Gozer
***Hungry Manitou, who first appeared in Volume 1 Issues #5 to 7.
***Sandman, from Annual 2015.
*Page 17
**Peter alludes to Ray's spirit guide, who appeared in Volume 1 Issue #1 and 14; sort of in Volume 2 Issue #17, and Annual 2015.
**Peter alludes to the Aura Video-Analyzer.
**The entity mentions Peter's paper on the theory of Werewolf Gladiators of Atlantis, a riff on the 'theory of Atlantis' question Janine read in the first movie.
*Page 18
**Ray wears civies based on those worn by his counterpart in The Real Ghosbuters. He previously wore them in Volume 2 Issue #5.
*Page 19
**In panel 1, the foot X-ray is from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Doctor, Doctor".
**Peter quotes Dorothy from the end of "The Wizard of Oz".
**Ray refers to the Scarecrow character from Oz.
**Peter mentions ex-U.S. President Jimmy Carter.
**Peter alludes to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
**In panel 4, Egon is wearing his suit and vest outfit from the first movie.
*Page 20
**In the upper left are the 'Saturday Morning' Ghostbusters from Slimer!
***The Virtual Trading Card released online on March 27, 2018 revealed the inhabit the dimension designated 68-Q.
**Next to the 'Saturday Morning' Peter is Kevin Tanaka.
***Kevin's box references the Ghostbusters Wiki? Kenner Firehouse?
**Under the 'Saturday Morning' Ghostbusters are the Sanctum of Slime junior team, last seen in Annual 2018.
**Under the Sanctum of Slime junior team are The Real Ghostbusters and Slimer, last seen in Annual 2018.
**Right of Kevin Tanaka is the Robo-Buster of Dimension 68-V, revealed in the Virtual Trading Card of March 29, 2018.
**Center top are the Penguin-Hunters from the Tokyo ESP Scene 3 episode, last seen in Get Real #2.
**Below the Penguin-Hunters are the Extreme Ghostbusters and Slimer. The Virtual Trading Card from March 6, 2018 revealed they are in Dimension 68-E and not the same as The Real Ghostbusters.
**Below the Extreme Ghostbusters are the Ghostbusters and Slimer from New Ghostbusters II, last seen in Get Real #2.
***Dan Schoening added these Ghostbusters, prompting Erik Burnham to come up with a back story for them.
**Right of Penguin-Hunter Egon is Mike the Golem of Dimension 68-V, last seen in Annual 2018.
**Below Mike is Melanie Ortiz.
**Top right corner are the Ghostbusters from Ghostbusters: The Video Game, Stylized Versions, last seen in Get Real #2.
**Below the Stylized Versions team are the Chicago Ghostbusters.
**Right of Ron is Kevin Beckman.
***Kevin is holding a photo of his dog Mike Hat, a reuse of an image from Ghostbusters 101 #1.
**Below the Chicago Ghostbusters are the Answer The Call Ghostbusters.
**The last time the Saturday Morning Ghostbusters, Sanctum of Slime junior team, Real Ghostbusters, Extreme Ghostbusters, Penguin-Hunters, Stylized Versions team, and New Ghostbusters II team all appeared in the same issue was Get Real Issue #2.
*Page 21
**The 68-R designation was revealed on Winston's Virtual Trading Card on February 27, 2018.
**The events of Get Real Issue #1 and Proteus are mentioned.
**In the upper right, the DS- code ends in the 15 easter egg.
**The notes mention the Winstons enlisted in different military branches. The prime Winston was with the Marine Corps, the RGB Winston was with the Air Force - also revealed in his trading card.
**Janine, Slimer, and the Sedgewick Hotel of The Real Ghostbusters are mentioned.
**Cait Banner is alluded to.
**Slimer's adoption, seen in The Real Ghostbusters episode "Citizen Ghost", is mentioned.
**The fact it was a cartoon is riffed on.
**The no hiatus between Gozer and Vigo is mentioned. Vigo was referenced in The Real Ghostbusters episode "Partners in Slime".
**The potential leak in the Real Ghostbusters' Containment Unit came up in Get Real Issue #2 and served as an in-universe explanation for Dan Schoening's easter eggs.
**The P.K.E. Meter is mentioned.
**The Peters' argument about payment for the flow of ghosts from Get Real Issue #2 is brought up.
**The 86-R capture was a poltergeist at the Bronx Zoo in Get Real Issue #2 that was visually based on the Makoveris Lotsabucks.
**The file photos are borrowed from episodes of The Real Ghostbusters:
***Ray's is from "Mrs. Roger's Neighborhood".
***Winston's is from the first Intro sequence when the alarm sounds.
***Peter's is also from "Mrs. Roger's Neighborhood".
***Egon's is from "Bustman's Holiday" before he gives the thumb's up at the end.
***Janine's is from "Ghosts R Us".

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2. Page 3: In panel 4, the middle arcade from Stylized Version Firehouse?

3. Page 3: In panel 6, on the two green screens are ?

4. Page 4: In panel 2, behind Jenny, besides the RGB Potato Snacks are Ghostbusters themed snacks from ?

5. Page 4: In panel 2, right of Janine is an Ectoplasm Energy Drink in case?

6. Page 5: In panel 5, the clipboard on the table ?

7. Page 8: Jenny's navy blue outfit is based on ?

8. Page 20: The writing on Kevin Tanaka's box is -- wiki or Firehouse?

9. Page 20: The 15 easter egg is at the end of the file code in the upper right corner?
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By gboy6
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**The 86-R capture was a poltergeist at the Bronx Zoo in Get Real Issue #2 that was visually based on the Makoveris Lotsabucks.
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Did I miss a card? What dimension is 86-R? Is it a typo?
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