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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 4th, 2020, 1:21 am
by Kingpin
c.fago wrote: ↑August 3rd, 2020, 8:45 pm Austin what's happened to your Afterlife pack build thread? I was following it with great interest. You did a beautiful job and your pics where fantastic too!
Off-forum stuff happened. I know that's not a satisfying explanation, but we should respect Austin's decision in this instance to take the thread down.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 4th, 2020, 2:39 pm
by c.fago
I understand and hope he's not having legal troubles from the production for sharing some pack infos with our community.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 5th, 2020, 3:04 am
by Alphagaia
c.fago wrote: ↑August 4th, 2020, 2:39 pm I understand and hope he's not having legal troubles from the production for sharing some pack infos with our community.
Doubt it. I'm guessing he was firmly told to cease and desist. I'm sure they would only start the legal troubles if he didn't take it down. It's cleaner for all sides this way and caused the least amount of riples.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 5th, 2020, 3:22 am
by c.fago
Sure.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 5th, 2020, 9:37 am
by Bison256
He'll be able post it again next March, no worries. In a way it's kind of awesome he got it so close that sony felt it was a spoiler, from just what we saw in the trailer.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 5th, 2020, 10:02 am
by Lowberg
It wasn't just the trailer...someone involved know was sharing info.

Just my 2 cents but probably shouldn't have shared the info anywhere, albeit the leak is more of the responsibility of the original source who leaked it. Can't really blame the poster as who wouldn't want to get started on a build and post photos with insider info, but if the source was a friend that's just bad taste in my opinion.

My friend's family member holds a pretty good position in the CGI industry and works on major marvel movies, and she won't even disclose to her own family what movie she's working on at a given time. That stuff is normally sealed up like top secret. You get caught leaking stuff you arent supposed to you get blacklisted in the film industry...

I think Jason Reitman said at one point he want's this movie to "unwrap like a x-mas present" so it's best to keep it that way and stop snooping where the gifts are hiding.

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 20th, 2020, 1:43 pm
by Lowberg
After scouring the internet for weeks looking for the correct shotgun foregrip, I said screw it and heavily heavily modified a regular thrower grip into the afterlife grip. Work in progress but it's starting to take form.

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 1:48 pm
by Kingpin
A few choice snippets from the recent NYSE video:

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Special credit to Dan Harshman for identifying this as a Neutrik Powercon cable coupling.

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A small glimpse of the new Ion Arm switch.

And the full pics from the 4K upload (right click to view in full size):

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 2:06 pm
by Lowberg
Ok official pics are out so cat's out of the bag now!
It's definitely some type of male/female powercon connector, possibly made by Neutrik.
The male 3 prong part goes in the thrower handle (most likely modified to fit)
The female part is painted silver attached to the split loom somehow (maybe tape as well)

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There's many variations of powercon adapters out there, many of which look the part

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 2:09 pm
by BatDan
I believe its a speakon cable.

Or staging light cable. (Most likely this one, as they usually yellow)

Hollowed out for the hosing of course.

Do a google search for either of those, you should find the right one.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 8:55 pm
by Lowberg
I just realized they are using that silly dale resistor nut that soo many fans put on their packs despite it never being on GB1/GB2 packs hahahaha I guess now it's the way!

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 10:49 pm
by RedSpecial
that and a dixie bracket instead of a v-hook :sigh:
I'm not a fan of either of those details .

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 10:59 pm
by Demon Vice Commander
RedSpecial wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 10:49 pm that and a dixie bracket instead of a v-hook :sigh:
I'm not a fan of either of those details .
Not only that, but the male portion of the Dixie bracket lacks the aluminum block to offset it from the pack.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 22nd, 2020, 11:09 pm
by RedSpecial
Euch, even worse πŸ˜…
Surely that'll negatively effect the integrity of the gunmount area on the shell.

Thats a lot of weight and torque to add from the thrower without reinforcing it.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 2:05 am
by Mercifull
Lowberg wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 8:55 pm I just realized they are using that silly dale resistor nut that soo many fans put on their packs despite it never being on GB1/GB2 packs hahahaha I guess now it's the way!
Do you mean this one?

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This is a photograph of the GB2 hero pack worn by Bill Burray.

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And this is a photo from when GB1 was covered in Life magazine

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 2:38 am
by RedSpecial
Thats glue around that particular resistor, not the nut

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 8:03 am
by Lowberg
Thank you Red Special lol

Yea in those photos that's yellow epoxy leaking out. They never ever used the hexagon brass nut on the outside of the ion arm on any movie pack but yet 80% of fans who build proton pack replicas put it on there for some reason lol I'm not saying it doesn't look cool on the new packs, it's just funny that they most likely made that decision based off what fans have been doing.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 1:32 pm
by Kingpin
Demon Vice Commander wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 10:59 pm Not only that, but the male portion of the Dixie bracket lacks the aluminum block to offset it from the pack.
I dunno, I think there might be a mounting block there (highlighted in red):

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 2:00 pm
by Dr.D
I'm not convinced that is a dixie bracket

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 2:35 pm
by Bison256
Lowberg wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2020, 8:03 am Thank you Red Special lol

Yea in those photos that's yellow epoxy leaking out. They never ever used the hexagon brass nut on the outside of the ion arm on any movie pack but yet 80% of fans who build proton pack replicas put it on there for some reason lol I'm not saying it doesn't look cool on the new packs, it's just funny that they most likely made that decision based off what fans have been doing.
The prop makers bought parts from sellers on this site, it's not surprisong they referenced fan builds.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 23rd, 2020, 4:57 pm
by Demon Vice Commander
Kingpin wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2020, 1:32 pm
Demon Vice Commander wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2020, 10:59 pm Not only that, but the male portion of the Dixie bracket lacks the aluminum block to offset it from the pack.
I dunno, I think there might be a mounting block there (highlighted in red):

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Good eye! There's definitely something there; it does look a bit crooked, though...

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 29th, 2020, 9:56 am
by Badmen
One detail of these β€˜new’ packs I really like is the use of the strain relief fitting as a boot on some of the tubing. The cut sections of loom on the originals work on screen but aren’t believable under close scrutiny to me.

I predict a huge drop in demand for Spectra cable after the new movie is released.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 29th, 2020, 11:52 am
by Lowberg
Yea! The strain relief connections look really good in my opinion and fortunately are inexpensive and not hard to find. If anyone knows the correct size for those let me know, I know they come in sizes like PG7, PG7, PG11...

I took a shot in the dark and decided to try some old military surplus tape for the Spengler grip. I think it looks very very close and has the right amount of sheen. Also wrinkles up very similar. It's very similar to gaffers tape in thickness and how it rips.
The color is hard to match right now, the few photos we have of the Spengler tape look different in different lighting...as well as this tape. I'm happy for how close it is.

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I did a test wrap on a Mattel thrower:

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 29th, 2020, 6:48 pm
by Badmen
That has got to be the correct tape. Texture and width look right.

Is the Egon character left handed? It occurred to me that switching hands to hold the thrower is actually comfortable now without the finger cuts in the front grip.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 30th, 2020, 2:56 am
by Mercifull
Lowberg wrote: ↑September 29th, 2020, 11:52 am ...
I took a shot in the dark and decided to try some old military surplus tape for the Spengler grip. I think it looks very very close and has the right amount of sheen. Also wrinkles up very similar. It's very similar to gaffers tape in thickness and how it rips.
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That's exactly the same kind of stuff I'm replacing my rubber grip with. I have my own 3D printer so I have this which I will secure in place and then wrap entirely with tape to hide the seams

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 30th, 2020, 3:18 am
by Mercifull
What do we think about the Clippard? This thread shows that the two Clippard valves, the 331 and 701, do not really have a consistent placement across the various props from both GB1 and GB2.

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I was pretty convinced that the Clippard on the Spengler wand was a 331 because a) the footage at the toy launch shows a "nipple" on the knob and it looks to be slightly recessed and b) the undersized Clippard on the wand looks more like a 331. The R-701 has a flat top adjustment knob which does not have a "nipple".

So I went ahead and created a 331 style knob for my 301 and made a video for it here...


However... some have claimed that its still a 701 and the knob is just screwed down to the bottom. It's not really possible to tell yet as we've not had a sufficiently high-resolution look at the wand.

In the Facebook 'Spengler wand modders' group some people have found other (non-Clippard) brand adjustment knobs and created a 701 effect from cheaper Clippards like the 301 (see image below).

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So could Egon have replaced the knob on his wand? What does the GB hive mind think... 331 or a 701?

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 30th, 2020, 6:25 am
by RedSpecial
Its an r331.
The production used the superhero pack as direct reference and a few of its features were implemented on the afterlife Spengler pack.
Including an r331 on the thrower.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 30th, 2020, 6:40 am
by Mercifull
And the orange hat on gunbox as well it would seem.

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Rooftop scene from GB1 of super hero

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: September 30th, 2020, 6:50 am
by RedSpecial
Exactly!
It also shares a similar bracket mounting point on the powercell rather than above it as seen on the other four hero packs.

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: October 9th, 2020, 7:25 am
by ecto88mph
Anyone know where the new yellow cable terminates. I see that it goes from the base and follows the ribbon cable up does it also go into that same hole or does it go someplace else?