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Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:October 30th, 2019, 12:25 pm
by Adub794
Hi all,

I’m in the research phase of my full size hero build and wanted to get opinions on various shells. I’m seeking reviews on karnivorous creations, benofkent, and GBfans shells. Looking for first hand builders experiences and pros/cons of each, if possible.

My main goal is durability. I want to utilize aluminum parts when available. I’ve already inquired to CPU64 about his aluminum wand and possibly utilizing his aluminum parts.

Any information on the above mentioned shells would be helpful

Thanks
-Albert

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:October 30th, 2019, 2:03 pm
by McCrea
Following as it is my next build also :)

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:October 30th, 2019, 5:28 pm
by Tommorris22
Based on the best info I could find, Karnivorous Creations shell is one of the most accurate. I have one and I’m very happy with it. It didn’t have any of the warping issues I’ve seen other have to deal with and fix.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:October 31st, 2019, 1:26 am
by signeddiamond
I have a BenofKent shell as I also wanted the motherboard premounted. It was painted with a primer that dried a bit fuzzy but I was planning on resending and detailing anyway. The pack is robust, detailed, and somewhat pliable being polyurethane. I was never worried about it cracking while being drilled and it feels like it would bounce back from a few good dings without cracking.

The material is a bit thick in some parts requiring more drilling and clearing out to get tubing and stuff run but I can’t say how satisfied I am with the shell.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:October 31st, 2019, 8:06 pm
by Adub794
Good info, thank you. I’m leaning towards one of Bens shells so far. I don’t think I’ve read a bad review. Does anyone know who makes the GBfans shell?

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 1st, 2019, 4:35 am
by RedSpecial
In terms of accuracy the top of the list in no particular order would be Pchrisbosh1, GBfans, HMS and its related castings ( derived from a reworking of a pull from a destroyed stunt pack mold) ,V330 , karnivorous.

It depends what you're looking for really.
There are plenty of other shells on the market outside of those .
Although if you're looking for a true hero style build The other shells on the market are basically very idealised versions of the pack and lack the quirks and details of the original packs.
While the shells above have a lot of these details off the bat .

Any shell which is cast using a fiberglass layup will be more durable.
Not that a straight resin shell or a vacform won't be durable but the reinforcement that layers of resin and fiberglass gives you can really take some punishment.
Thats not to say that you couldn't reinforce them yourself though.

I believe the GBfans shell comes from an updated version of the V330 buck if i remember correctly.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

They are professionally laid using a machine chopped method.
I have one myself and the layup is really consistent with a nice uniform thickness throughout and little to no airpockets that I've found aside from the usual pinholes in the gelcoat but even those are few and far between.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 1st, 2019, 11:42 am
by Adub794
Thanks Red. Good info

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 4th, 2019, 6:48 pm
by Adub794
I just saw the pics on Fitzhume’s build thread of a broken, resin, benofkent shell that took a tumble. I’m now leaning towards a fiberglass shell. Most likely a GBfans shell at this point

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 5th, 2019, 8:29 pm
by Wedgeismyhero
Great information. After my disastrous Knowones designs purchase, I'm looking to start a build, and this was incredibly helpful. Thanks for starting the thread, Adub, and everyone for contributing info! I think I'm also leaning fiberglass.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 6th, 2019, 9:56 am
by BigDaddy
Great information. After my disastrous Knowones designs purchase, I'm looking to start a build, and this was incredibly helpful. Thanks for starting the thread, Adub, and everyone for contributing info! I think I'm also leaning fiberglass.
I hear you there...

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:November 14th, 2019, 12:07 pm
by Adub794
I’m glad members are finding use for the information posted.

I ended up placing an order for the gbfans fiberglass shell. I found several build threads on the forum that had detailed pics of the shell and it seems to be the one of the best ways to go for durability. With that said the shop went from 3 in stock to back ordered over the last week. I waited too long lol

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 10th, 2019, 9:47 am
by Adub794
So I received my GBfans fiberglass shell and I’m glad I went this route. This thing is pretty robust and well built. It seems like it could take a hit in the event of an accidental drop, etc.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 10th, 2019, 12:31 pm
by RedSpecial
Great choice, not thst I'm biased or anything Image

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it :)

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 10th, 2019, 2:19 pm
by Adub794
Great choice, not thst I'm biased or anything Image

Looking forward to seeing what you do with it :)
Thanks Red. Your thread and info actually swayed me to the GBfans shell.

Btw who do you use as an image host to put pics of your build on here?

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 10th, 2019, 2:26 pm
by RedSpecial
No problem.
I use imgur at the moment.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 11th, 2019, 1:11 pm
by perrbear
General question, I have an old proton pack that’s taking some damage over the years. Can anyone recommend the right type of glue to use? The right paint to use?
Also there seems to be a white type of puddy that was used to weld certain pieces together? Do you know what that would be? Thanks in advance for any help. Want to restore this beauty!

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 11th, 2019, 7:56 pm
by RedSpecial
Some pics of thepack would help us to gauge it properly Perrbear.

Its always best to use mechanical fixings wherever possible instead of glue, its much easier to repair and replace parts that way and its a much stronger connection over all.
Although when I need to use glue I like to use JB weld original two part epoxy.
Its a 24hr cure but its one of the strongest adhesive bonds you can get in my experience.
Typically , the longer the cure time for epoxy adhesives the stronger the bond.

The white stuff is most likely a two part epoxy putty.
There are loads of brands available but again, I've found jb welds epoxy putties to be some of the best.
Especially the steel stik.

Paint is down to personal preference but I like to use good quality grey primer, followed by a black satin paint.
It depends where youre located for the brand.
Here in the UK we have a great shade of satin black made by Halfords which seems pretty close to the shade of the paint on the original packs .
For US alternatives brands you might want to look into either Krylon , rustoleum or Montana.

Re: Research and preparation: Insight on shells

PostPosted:December 11th, 2019, 9:02 pm
by Adub794
I concur with what Red posted, good information. To add to it, with any of the epoxys, make sure to also use clamps. Wood clamps, Irwin makes a good “quick clamp”... With any fasteners, use flat washers for added support.

I’d also like to see pics of what you’ve got