- August 28th, 2018, 5:06 pm#4907986
Hey Everyone! The main body of this post is to go over my impressions of the Spirit Ghost Trap, what I would like to change on it, and how I plan on doing some of the modifications. At the bottom of the post, I have a few questions and pleas for help, so if you'd like to skip to that you can.
Introduction
So, over the weekend I picked up a Spirit Ghost Trap and made an unboxing video as well as a teardown video.
Since I'm new to prop building, and really like that these traps were produced, I thought it would be a great idea to try and mod one of them. So, taking what I learned taking mine apart, I've decided to set a few goals.
Project Goals (In rough order, order and list items subject to change):
First Impressions
For reference, I took measurements: Included Hardware: The trap quality is... well, it's good in some ways, but definitely not in others. I've opened up 9 of these traps now (I've only bought 2 of them, most I opened at the store to verify they were good), and most were fine. If you'd like to see the issues, expand the spoiler below. I'd say three of the 9 had major issues that made them undesirable, the others I passed on due to personal preference.
When buying, check over your trap to make sure it is fine before leaving the parking lot. Spirit has been very accommodating in exchanging any traps I've gotten that have had issues. Also, a lot of these issues don't matter if you are planning on modding the trap (depending on how you want to mod it).
In general the paint jobs on these are not great. And the handle honestly seems like it's not going to last long. Pulling up on the handle, the way it's meant to be used, seems relatively solid, but if you put any pressure DOWN on it, the top half of the handle cylinder seems like it wants to separate. The other issue with it is: It does not extend very far into the trap. Ideally, a handle would go all the way to the trap floor, or attach to something sturdy in the trap to avoid the handle breaking out of the trap. These reasons are why one of my goals is to either reinforce the handle or replace it entirely with something that will be much more sturdy. The only other real nitpick I have is with the design of the trap: I hate that it splits down the middle. It means, to get inside, you have to completely take apart the whole thing as it is now (more on this later). Other than those things, I really don't have any complaints given the price. The plastic is relatively sturdy, which makes the body pretty good and also quite light. Cosmetically, I think you could totally upgrade the look of these with pretty minimal work. So if you like the current lights/sounds, and don't plan on adding a hose/pedal, you could spend a Saturday painting, adding the small aluminum plates, and replacing a couple of other components like the red LED and adding some physical screws and you'd have a pretty legit looking trap.
Current Plans
Door open/close mechanism:
Right now I think I have two options.
Check out this video for more details:
https://youtu.be/O70c7el8s2A
Also, some pictures of the handle for reference:
Help/Feedback Requests:
So, right now what I need the most help with is figuring out which approach to take with the door open/close mechanism. I am leaning towards the servo approach, but would love to hear what more experienced trap builders think.
The other thing I need help with is finding the correct cosmetic screws:
At my local Lowe's they have both hex and button head screws in black. I was looking at this post in this thread for size reference, but I'm a bit confused. They look perfect to use on my trap mod, but I am not sure which sizes are correct (or close to the correct sizes). Here are a couple pictures of the screws, I was thinking that M3 looked close to the smaller screws, and M5 to the larger screws, but I can't quite tell and am not sure if I'm comparing apples to oranges or what here.
EDIT: Whoops, forgot to include the pictures of the Lowe's screw drawers EDIT: Added details on which goals are currently being worked on with IN PROGRESS and COMPLETE tags
Introduction
So, over the weekend I picked up a Spirit Ghost Trap and made an unboxing video as well as a teardown video.
Since I'm new to prop building, and really like that these traps were produced, I thought it would be a great idea to try and mod one of them. So, taking what I learned taking mine apart, I've decided to set a few goals.
Project Goals (In rough order, order and list items subject to change):
- Replace the mechanism for opening and closing the doors with something that can be triggered electronically [COMPLETE]
- Replace the existing circuit board with an arduino and supporting hardware for controlling LEDs [COMPLETE]
- Replace the existing wheels with bearings [COMPLETE]
- Look into either reinforcing or replacing the existing handle [COMPLETE]
- Replace the power panel on top of the trap with a new plate that can be removed to access some components inside [COMPLETE]
- Add an aluminum/faux-aluminum plating to the front of the trap [COMPLETE]
- Either paint the existing large panels to make them look like aluminum or replace them with aluminum [COMPLETE]
- Paint all the black surfaces [COMPLETE]
- Add more accurate plating around the yellow status bar graph LED opening [COMPLETE] (I decided against adding plating for now, and instead added a LED holder for the additional yellow LED)
- Replace all fake knobs with functional knobs, give the top LED a more film accurate casing, replace the power switch with a more screen accurate toggle [COMPLETE]
- Add actual screws where they exist in the films, including on the aluminum plating, on the sides of the yellow status LED housing, etc [COMPLETE]
- Remove the existing belt buckle and replace it with different belt-attaching hardware [COMPLETE]
- Add a pedal [COMPLETE]
First Impressions
For reference, I took measurements:
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In general the paint jobs on these are not great. And the handle honestly seems like it's not going to last long. Pulling up on the handle, the way it's meant to be used, seems relatively solid, but if you put any pressure DOWN on it, the top half of the handle cylinder seems like it wants to separate. The other issue with it is: It does not extend very far into the trap. Ideally, a handle would go all the way to the trap floor, or attach to something sturdy in the trap to avoid the handle breaking out of the trap. These reasons are why one of my goals is to either reinforce the handle or replace it entirely with something that will be much more sturdy. The only other real nitpick I have is with the design of the trap: I hate that it splits down the middle. It means, to get inside, you have to completely take apart the whole thing as it is now (more on this later). Other than those things, I really don't have any complaints given the price. The plastic is relatively sturdy, which makes the body pretty good and also quite light. Cosmetically, I think you could totally upgrade the look of these with pretty minimal work. So if you like the current lights/sounds, and don't plan on adding a hose/pedal, you could spend a Saturday painting, adding the small aluminum plates, and replacing a couple of other components like the red LED and adding some physical screws and you'd have a pretty legit looking trap.
Current Plans
Door open/close mechanism:
Right now I think I have two options.
- Remove the "pen assembly" from the handle that currently pushes the tabs that open/close the doors and replace it with a solenoid that pushes the tabs to open/close the doors
- Remove the handle entirely, replace it with a new, sturdier handle, and use two servos to drive the existing door gears
Check out this video for more details:
https://youtu.be/O70c7el8s2A
Also, some pictures of the handle for reference:
Help/Feedback Requests:
So, right now what I need the most help with is figuring out which approach to take with the door open/close mechanism. I am leaning towards the servo approach, but would love to hear what more experienced trap builders think.
The other thing I need help with is finding the correct cosmetic screws:
At my local Lowe's they have both hex and button head screws in black. I was looking at this post in this thread for size reference, but I'm a bit confused. They look perfect to use on my trap mod, but I am not sure which sizes are correct (or close to the correct sizes). Here are a couple pictures of the screws, I was thinking that M3 looked close to the smaller screws, and M5 to the larger screws, but I can't quite tell and am not sure if I'm comparing apples to oranges or what here.
EDIT: Whoops, forgot to include the pictures of the Lowe's screw drawers
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