After sending Neil (Venky) $545 US dollars
payment for a shell bundle and two cast bellows prior to that, I have been patiently and foolishly waiting over 3 years and 4 months
I was part of the pre sale before the actual offer was publicly posted and yet it looks like 9 out of 10 of those people were shipped their bundles.
I feel that I have given Neil more than enough time on this deal and have heard enough excuses.
He gave solid dates throughout this time like on 18 Oct 2012 he said "most definitely be sending out your shell on Monday/Tuesday" which would have been the 22-23 October 2012.
December 6th 2012 he sent me a picture of "My" shell. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the same picture he sent others.
November 7th 2014 he claims to have no record of my address.
Being too understanding and patient has been rewarded by being left on the backburner. Staying quiet about this was a big mistake, but I was trying to be respectful to Neil.
I feel my frustration is justified due to the public sale having priority over the money he received prior to the public sale being posted.
I committed to this deal and sent payment nearly five weeks before this offer was made public.
All I want is to finally receive my bundle, I really don't want the headache of filing a police report and reporting to the Internet Crimes Complaint Center (FBI) but I feel like I now have no choice due to the continuing avoidance and excuses.
I sent Neil an email on the 16th of November 2015 and a pm on here the 29th of September. He has seen the pm but continues to dodge my pm's and when he does answer he says my bundle will ship soon or mentions another setback or excuse. This has gone on far too long.
Last response from Neil was almost 7 months ago on May 13th 2015.
He has not responded to any other pm or email
Sent: August 26th, 2015, 1:27 am (no response)
Sent: September 29th, 2015, 9:30 am (no response)
Email Sent November 16th 2015, 8:30 pm (no response)
Outbox: December 3rd 2015, 10:03 am (unread)
Here are all the previous details summed up.
My order to date:
One film spec motherboard
One booster frame
Two cast bellows
One hand cut set of hero L brackets & the 3/16 wide flange rivets and allen screws
Selection A for my bumper (10/32" screw & 1/4" yz washer) and
Selection D for my shell (1/4"screw & 5/16" ss washer)
Stantz style foam pad
Shell mounted to the motherboard.
Cyclotron/Nfilter/powercell windows cut out.
Here is the copy of the paypal transaction
Naward Conceptions (The recipient of this payment is Verified)
-$545.00 USD (equals -$567.71 CAD)
1 Canadian Dollar = 0.9600 U.S. Dollars
Jul 15, 2012
Payment for Pack shell / motherboard / bumper / booster frame
Hey Neil, It's Canthor from gbfans. Here is the payment for the Pack shell / motherboard / bumper / booster frame. The two cast bellows can be shipped with everything else. Thanks again -Steve
$567.71 CAD - Royal Bank Chequing (Confirmed) x-XXXX
Back Up Funding Source:
Visa Credit Card XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
Sent: April 17th, 2012, 5:48 pm
Really sorry about that. thats the problem with having two separate lists of items and trying to keep up with combining them. I will ship them out this week for certain. Thanks for letting me know and thanks as well for the compliments. I am really glad you like them.
Sent: April 19th, 2012, 1:21 am
I just wanted to give you an update and change of plans that will improve what is sent to you. The Bellow molds are shot. After many attempts both gave out by the extreme tension that was being applied to the sections lying in between the fins. They were stretched to the point where they would not lie normally anymore, causing the fins to cast very strangely, not giving you a clear view to the center piece of the bellows as I demonstrated in my initial photo. I did not want to send anyone who I have remaining order with (4 people total) so I will be molding the bellows sometime this week to get out those I owe. I appreciate your understanding and cannot thank you enough for your patience. I only want to give you the best that can be offered and not something "close or good enough." I will contact you with pictures of not only the new mold, but your actual casting. Its the least I can do for how long you have waited.
June 23rd, 2012, 8:09 pm
First I want to thank you for all the business you have given to me either recently or in the past.
As I wrapping up the last of my orders, I would like to offer something very exclusive where I feel it should be done to those I have done good business with and that appreciate this stuff as much as myself. that is why I am offering for this time only the infamous stunt to hero shell!
This is the shell that is a representation of a project that started over 11 years ago. With the help of Sony and Planet Hollywood and the studio who would handle the restoration/ conversion process of this shell, would come the most accurate shell to date with all the tells and history to boot.
Along the way there were aspects of the shell that were cleaned up hence the removal of the N-Filter, which would later be recreated and applied exclusively for this shell, and the inclusion of the loom socket located at the top of the "teardrop" portion of the shell. This feature does not exist on the original hero shell and was made for practicality and does not affect the cosmetic accuracy of this piece, only structurally. These two aspects are what set this shell apart from any shell ever worked on.
As you can see from this thread:
http://www.gbfans.com/community/viewtop ... =2&t=28580
I would chime in with proof and picture to share some of the rich history this pack project began as, and would eventually be an investment by myself and one other individual.
Since then, I have had help by the admins and by a member here who has one of Ross' shell, the item in question with great suspicion of being a potential recast of one of our shells left over in the hands of the studio who was hired to do the project initially. Following this write up I have provided an extensive comparison of the shells and mine.
As mentioned above he N-Filter and Loom socket appear EXACTLY on the two shells in the following photo compared with mine. (Caption from left to right.)
Not only does the N-Filter have the exact weld layout on the edge of the cylinder as compared in the next photo...
...but the alignment of the holes to the lower right cyclotron ring is exact as well. the two holes that are accurately too close to each other line up right underneath the face of the ring at six o'clock with the right hole.
The two discs at the base of the booster tube are crooked as pointed out in the thread linked above.
Other features that are provenant of this being a shell from our investment of a project also appear here:
NOTE: there is one discrepancy involving the angle turned curve on the base plate below the discs. This I modified on this shell to illustrate the improvement of accuracy I will offer ONLY on these units. As you can see from the pics of the mold and in the thread of the master, the angle was originally established.
Also, you may notice the warbled streaks in the body of Ross' shells. this is just an example of poor fabrication of the castings on his part. I have heard reports of his shells having warped areas as well as what was clearly pointed out in the thread linked above. These flaws may have also carried over from the left over casting from HMS as it was probably defective to begin with.
In conclusion, Ross did not attempt to contact me or send me photos to ultimately make sure he was not recasting a possible shell that was not accounted for in the project we paid handsomely for. He knew what he had and justified his actions solely on a "story" told to him by the place he got it from. He has no documentation, pictures nor history on his piece. I have all of this, some of which I have posted only here on this forum, and more that I will share here soon enough. That is why I only sold what I have sold here so far. All of these items came from this investment and we sat on them for three years before finally offering them to the community.
All of us already know about how Ross' shell, a recast of mine, was recast again by a man named Videobob.....
Now, what you will get from me....
You will get a shell cast in fiberglass and outer edges cleaned flush to mount properly on the other piece, apart of this package deal. The aluminum motherboard is cut directly from the illustrator file from the hero motherboard. I will not cut out any of the cyclotron rings or power cell areas. I want to provide this shell in its entirety to you. The price for this piece will be $525 shipped in the U.S. and $545 outside of the U.S. Though some of you may have one already...as a bonus I will throw in one of my bumpers cast from an original in for free!
Please get back to me for I have the one pictured above all ready to go and have the ability to cast one each night immediately (when its cool enough) for all who take advantage of this one time opportunity.
If you choose to purchase one, please paypal to ****@hotmail.com
If you have any question or wish to see more pics, please do not hesitate to ask!
July 15th, 2012, 7:22 pm
First and most importantly Steve, I am so sorry! I thought that was taken care of. I had made a new mold for the last few I needed, and it did not last too long for the fins on bellows are very taxing on the tear strength of silicone. I will get a couple out of the old molds for ya' immediately and clean them up for you and get those out to you immediately OR I can pack them in with your bumper and booster frame with your shell. You decide and let me know.
The story on the shell in a nutshell is as follows.
Hero Shell was made for hero packs that were used again for GB2, only slightly altered on the surface. Electronics inside were HUGE and very complicate, therefore never tampered with, only used for the next film. I have pics of the interior of the hero shell not posted YET, but will be when I have the time to do so.
One fully built pack was clayed in areas, creating channels or barriers, easy for molding as is, to create the GB1 stunt shell.
That mold was chucked, found and rebuilt using black RTV to assemble them old together, and for a master pull made to the best of their ability. That hard copy of the stunt shell AND wand (have pieces of the pack that I have shown AND have a nearly complete hard casting of the stunt wand I recently picked up as part of the Arron Mack pack project transaction, four years in the making.
The hard shell casting was cut in areas to rebuild to "hero" form. Using all the measurements they acquired off the hero pack, cross referenced with the stunt parts, they created a database of layouts for both shell and wand. So, even though it was cast out of the stunt mold, it was technically retro fitted to remain a "1st" of sorts. The second generation begins from The AM / Venky shell, then goes to third with Ross' since he molded one of the shells HMS had that came from our mold I have. Bob Mosely's is then is a 4th generation from mine since it is a recast of Ross'.
So there you have it!
I will order a batch of motherboards tomorrow to insure they come by the end of the week or beginning of next for they function on a M-F basis. the moment your board arrives, so will your shell be all ready to go!
July 15th, 2012, 11:04 pm
Hey no prob Steve,
You are too kind and I am glad you are so enthusiastic about it all. No worries about the booster frame as I already have one cast up for you and will throw it in as a I'm sorry for the bellows that you are finally getting.
Its something I never thought I would have either, so all and all its a big breakthrough for the community, and I am glad to be apart of it.
It is $545 sent to ****@hotmail.com whenever you can I am re ordering the motherboards tomorrow so those should be ready by Friday or Monday depending on their workload and they function on a M-F business schedule.
Let me know if you have any more questions. I will do the best to answer them for ya'!.
July 27th, 2012, 8:43 pm
I just wanted to drop you a line that I picked up a new batch of motherboards for the old batch were of my old "fan made" shell board file. Let us just say I made them delete that one and resent my film spec motherboard, they should have already had in my file section. Oh, well. I picked them up yesterday and should have your package out this coming week!
Please let me know if there are any questions you may have and I will update you with tracking and all when it is off and in your direction.
August 3rd, 2012, 11:00 pm
Just wanted give you a brief update. I was getting a little backed up and overwhelmed with orders, so I will be getting your and one other members shell order out. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you to make the wait less painful by throwing in something for ya' Its the least I can do for you.
August 29th, 2012, 4:00 am
I just wanted to let you know I am still alive and have not forgotten about you and another member that I am both taking care of on the shell front.
Last week was a really bad monsoon week for we had some nasty rain and terrible humidity. I unfortunately work in a A/C-less shop until I move in a month to a better work space. I work overnight and rain was in the way of such.
Now that we are having a drier week, I will be banging out the last of these shells for you and another before Itake a short break from them to only turn around and do a run of ten publicly, THEN that is it.
I got some other things I am working on for the community. Doing more grips for AJ AND Joe for his wand build ups(you did not hear that from me.)
Perhaps a perfect sniffer replica
And one of the last pieces to my "original stunt pieces cast of" items....
an entire GB1 stunt thrower.......
..and a few other items down the road.
I hope this helps you understand what I am preparing to offer PLUS work on all that I do. Unfortunately its a one man wrecking crew. It does get crazy and I am surprised I have not collapsed from it yet.
Thanks again for your much appreciated patience as I did not mean for these to take so long.
I will let you know when yours is ready and will be more than happy to answer anything you are curious about!
October 18th, 2012, 12:28 am
Thanks for the new address and will most definitely be sending out your shell on Monday/Tuesday. Things have been crazy because of Halloween, but I am about to be all caught up.
All My Best,
November 15th, 2012, 10:53 pm
I do not know if I responded to this message, but CONGRATULATIONS on your first house purchase. That has got to make things much nicer and easier for you both. Good times ahead for you guys!
Thanks for the address update as well.
Sorry I have been out of touch for I just got over being really sick. It was probably due to lack of rest and working my fingers down to the bone in time for many Halloween related orders among other overdue orders. Somehow I am still alive to tell the tale.
I have pics of your shell and motherboard and will have it shipped out by this weekend or Monday at the utmost latest.
Hope all is well and I will talk with you real soon!
December 6th, 2012, 3:18 am
Here is a pic of your kit with your motherboard and already have your bumper, but not in the pic. I can send you one if you would like. All I need to do is do a bit more clean up and it will be finished.
Had a question for you, I will be making a FS thread for this shell ONLY to 10 people and it will have the same price and perks that you and the other few got when investing in this package.
I will be offering as well a hand cut set of hero L brackets, which will be revealed for the first time along with some never before seen photos ..... of the inside of a Hero GB1/2 pack, BOTH the hardware attached to the motherboard and the inside for the shell. I will also be including the 3/16 wide flange rivets and allen screws as well. These I will send to you either with the package or separately, that is up to you.
LMK if you want these I will be getting the bracket stock and rivets ordered once the thread is posted. You and the other few will receive their sets FIRST.
October 19th, 2013, 8:36 pm
I will be working on your shell next week. If anything has changed or needs to be added in regards to your order, please let me know when you can.
December 6th, 2013, 1:08 pm
Thanks for bearing with me this whole journey as it will becoming to a close here in the next couple of weeks, YAY!
I am resuming shipping on items as I had some major issues in the past weeks with items becomig untraceable for excessive periods of time, exceeding their shipping dates.
Hope all is well and again, thank you for being ever so patient.
January 17th, 2014, 7:10 pm
Thanks for the sentiments regarding my injury. It is a doozey and will never make that mistake again.
Your place is with only a few others that are unlisted and as I near the end of the public list, I am working on getting the rest ready to go out the following week and the one after that. that will conclude that run entirely and allow me to accept individual orders from there on out.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your support, understanding and most importantly your patience!
It goes to show that there are those out there that truly understand this craft and believe in what I do and will deliver on. Not to say I do not acknowledge my faults with this run, I do, but in the end its all about choosing to work on this stuff for people and make them happy in the end.
Let me know if there is anything else you need or have concerns about.
November 7th, 2014, 7:53 am
Steve, Could I please have your most current address. I cannot seem to find any current record of it.
May 13th, 2015, 4:13 am
I assure you and others I am not ignoring you. I will make good on my word. Many complications have come about in my life I have been and am dealing with that have made work difficult. Many re organizational things are happening to insure my business will continue and complete that which I owe to you and others. I am in the process of working on all these shells as yours is being worked on currently. I apologize for not being more communicative about this process, but they will ship and be of the same quality as I shipped out my first one.