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Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 2nd, 2019, 6:47 pm
by mrmichaelt
TF/GB #5

Main Story
Giant alien robots vs. Giant alien robot ghost-like being. Check.

It was amusing that the other Decepticons refused to aid Megatron because Optimus' deal was more enticing. But I mean... "Decept" in "Decepticons" says it all, pretty obvious they're going to turn on the Autobots if they succeed in transplanting them to new physical bodies. But, eh.

Soundwave's play-by-play analysis was hilarious. And I was hoping we'd see some of the Mini-Cassettes then to boot, Ray gets slimed. heh. Winston's reply to that was the best. I'm on the fence about the G.I. Joe reference, seemed a bit thirsty. But of course, Starscream would be the one to get away.

Ever since ghost Starscream appeared, from what little I remembered from the cartoons, I was wondering if any Transformers were going to get possessed. Good thing they left that canister inside Eck's vehicle form. But it was a nice end cap from Ectotron to be the one to wrangle the last ghost. Peter always the businessman, lol.

And Ectotron departs to search space for Cybertronian ghosts. Not what I expected but certainly leaves the door open for a sequel mini-series down the line I suppose. All in all, like the 35th Anniversary issue, didn't turn out to be a world ending threat yet still entertaining down to the wire. After Crossing Over, it's kinda nice to have a string of threats of a smaller magnitude and scale. But who knows how long that will last. That's a wrap on 2019. Guess we'll have to wait and see until the next series is announced (or if Diamond spoils it in solicits).
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Easter Eggs so far
*Cover A
**Thundercracker (F-15 Eagle form; Decepticon Seeker Commander) is right of Slimer.
**Grimlock (Tyrannosaurus Rex form; Autobot Dinobot) is right of Thundercracker.
**Rumble (robot form; Decepticon Mini -Cassette) is between Soundwave and Grimlock.
**Wheeljack (robot form; Autobot) is on the far right in front of Grimlock.
**Egon
**Ravage (jaguar form; Decepticon Mini-Cassette) is in front of Wheeljack.
**Kickback (locust form; Decepticon Insecticon) is on the far right above Grimlock.
*Cover B
**The cover is a nod to the Times Square scene in the "Ghostbusters" song's music video.
**Several billboards reference:
***Statue of Liberty
***Stay Puft Marshmallows
***Vigo
***Manhattan Museum of Art
**Optimus Prime and Ectotron appear above the Ghostbusters.
*Cover RI
**Optimus Prime appears with the Ghostbusters.
*Page 1
**Continuing from last issue, Optimus Prime is in the Ecto-35 colors from the recent figure release and wields a Proton Axe, similar to the Energon Axe from the Transformers episode "More Than Meets The Eye, Part 2".
*Page 2
**Shockwave refers to the offer Optimus made at the end of last issue, extending from Starscream to help all four Decepticons restore their physical bodies.
*Page 3
**Megatron mentions Cybertron and alludes to its destruction at the hands of Gozer seen in Issue #1 and Issue #2.
**Peter screams "Dah!" like at the start of the first movie.
**"Millennia" is misspelled and there is an extraneous "a" before it in one of Shockwave's sentences in panel 5.
*Page 4
**Soundwave creates manifestations of three of his Mini-Cassettes, Ravage, Laserbeak, and Buzzsaw. They were smaller Decepticons who transformed into analog audio cassettes stored in Soundwave's chest and were used to conduct special missions like espionage.
***Laserbeak had a cameo in Issue #1.
*Page 5
**Ray uses Proton Grenade on Ravage.
**Winston mentions the G.I. Joe cartoons and its use of lasers instead of bullets.
**Soundwave curses with "scrap." The curse dates back to the Beast Wars animated series in the 1999 episode "Proving Grounds" where Optimus Primal tells Black Arachnia and Silverbolt they look like scrap. By the Transformers Prime series in 2010, it was the primary curse word used.
*Page 6
**Peter mentions his favorite flavor is orange sherbet.
**Ectotron admits it is his first real fight.
*Page 7
**Starscream alludes to Kremzeek.
*Page 8
**Megatron's mace is a nod to the Energon mace he employs against Optimus in the Transformers episode "More Than Meets The Eye, Part 2".
**Optimus alludes to Cybertron.
*Page 9
**The split image of Megatron's internal gears is from Transformers: The Movie when he is converted into Galvatron by Unicron.
*Page 10
**In the Transformers franchise, ghost Starscream has possessed several Cybertronians over the decades.
*Page 11
**Egon mentions a theoretical autopsy on Ectotron. Incidentally, in Ghostbusters: The Video Game, realistic versions, it is revealed Egon used to be a coroner but now it's more of a hobby.
**Ray mentions the Statue of Liberty and the team animating it in Ghostbusters II.
*Page 12
**Megatron's "There is no trying" and Peter's quip is a nod to Yoda from Star Wars.
*Page 14
**Ectotron vomits Energon, the Transformers' energy source.
*Page 15
**Megatron's new form is visually based on the Megatron design from the Aligned continuity.
**Megatron alludes to the fact that Optimus is a Prime. In the franchise, that has meant various things such as the leader of the Autobots, the bearer of the Matrix of Leadership, or the original thirteen Transformers.
**The throne is Galvatron's seen in the Transformers episode "Starscream's Ghost".
**Kneeling on the floor are Sunstreaker, Jazz, and Bumblebee.
*Page 17
**In panel 1, obscured by Peter's word balloon is ?
**Peter mentions the Containment Unit.
**Optimus gets a feeling of deja vu from Ray's declaration about freedom as it is from his own catchphrase.
**Optimus' "all be one again" is a nod to the rally call of the Autobots, "'Til all are one," interpreted as until all shed their affiliations or until all are one with the Allspark.
*Page 18
**Winston mentions Janine.
**Winston alludes to Ectotron bending a support beam in Issue #3 and blowing up the Ecto-Gyro in Issue #4.
**In panel 4, Luis Delgado's 15 easter egg is on a tag on the wall right under Ectotron's leg.
**Peter is the inspiration for Ectotron's nametag.
*Page 19
**Ray is intrigued with the notion of ghosts in space, a nod to the Ghost Smashers script.
*Page 20
**Ectotron mentioned his ship back in Issue #2.
**Ectotron's ship is visually based on the Autobot Lifepod seen in the Transformers episode "Dark Awakening".
**In panel 4, the glimmer left by the ship is based on the glimmer at the start of the season 1 title sequence of Transformers (1984).
**The Decepticon symbol flashing in Starscream's eye is a nod to the symbols shining in the season 1 title sequence of Transformers (1984).

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1. Page 17: In panel 1, the object on the left obscured by the word balloon is ?
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Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 4th, 2019, 6:07 pm
by Ghostytheghost
So............ what’s this art gonna be used for?
https://twitter.com/tomwaltz/status/118 ... 88920320?s

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 4th, 2019, 6:52 pm
by mrmichaelt
My first crazy thought was are they finally adapting the movies into comics - a la a 4 issue adaptation of the 1st movie? Those are scenes from it plus some deleted and new ones (maybe like how they did the where Winston was story in the past 2017 annual).

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 5th, 2019, 1:26 am
by robbritton
My gut reaction to those is adaptions of GB1, GB2 and GBTVG as refreshers in the run up to the 2020 release (only cos Mooglie is holding up one finger, implying there may be others).

I mean, that’d be amazing, obviously, but it’s kind of playing to the choir to some degree.

The draw would be deleted scenes, as mrmichaelt mentions...

Ooh I love a bit of baseless speculation!

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 5th, 2019, 3:49 am
by mrmichaelt
Well, 99% percent baseless. Erik did mention before that adaptations for the 2 movies and game came up before.
https://twitter.com/erikburnham/status/ ... 8601405440
https://ghostbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Fi ... 202018.jpg

EDIT: Yeah, Erik squashed that theory on Ghostheads United with a "not exactly" - so perhaps an resolved case from that point in time or a solved case that turned out to be something bigger...

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 17th, 2019, 5:25 pm
by mrmichaelt
Erik Burnham will be doing an interview on Sunday at 9 pm EST on What We Do in the Firehouse. Call in with a question at (515) 605-9774.
https://www.blogtalkradio.com/whatwedoi ... 0LS5vU0SJE
-07:07-07:26: The only idea that was really shot down by Sony/Ghost Corps was around the time of the 2016 movie. At the time, an idea that was pitched was also going to be in the movie so it was shot down. It wound up not being in the movie's final cut
-07:35-07:52: The Louvre was initially going to also be bleeding blood but right before the printing deadline, there was a mass shooting in France. Sony/Ghost Corps asked for the blood to be removed
-1:08:00-1:08:-7: A sequel to Transformers/Ghostbusters has been talked about. The teaser line at the end of Issue #5 is in part meant to try and nudge Hasbro to agree to a sequel.

EDIT: Got around to figuring out an easter egg from TF/GB #3. Those 2 women who tagged Optimus with graffiti? Gender-flipped versions of Furg and one of the members of his Dancitron Gang in the episode "Auto-Bop"
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Furg
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:DancitronGang.jpg
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Auto-Bop

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 21st, 2019, 6:16 pm
by mrmichaelt
September sales are in and TF/GB #4 did 10,231 units in sales down from #3 which did 10, 545.
https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomics ... 19-09.html

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 21st, 2019, 6:35 pm
by *NormalGamer*
mrmichaelt wrote: October 21st, 2019, 6:16 pm September sales are in and TF/GB #4 did 10,231 units in sales down from #3 which did 10, 545.
https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomics ... 19-09.html
Not bad. Another small dip, but looks like the Transformers name is keeping it strong with the GB's.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 21st, 2019, 8:26 pm
by mrmichaelt
Tom Waltz dropped another teaser image (combined covers I suppose). And yes, references galore. lol.
https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1186438017692516354

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 6:54 am
by groschopf
Huh.

Kind of has "primer" for the uninitiated going to see a certain film in 2020 written all over it, doesn't it?

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 7:03 am
by mrmichaelt
groschopf wrote: October 22nd, 2019, 6:54 am Kind of has "primer" for the uninitiated going to see a certain film in 2020 written all over it, doesn't it?
It does. Though I'm thinking this latest image might tipped it off. In the middle is "Ghost Stories of an Antiquary" - a real book that's a collection of short stories. Perhaps this mini-series is similar and that's why Dan slipped it in there. Like each issue is a one-shot and gives each GB a focus and maybe it's set at different points, i.e. during GB1 or GB2. This week, January solicits do come out so if it starts that month, we'll know more soon and/or a press release article should be coming soon as well.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 7:18 am
by groschopf
Excellent deduction!

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 6:19 pm
by groschopf
Huh. Edgar Allen Poe and Studio 84, huh?

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source: https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1186749429476315136

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 6:22 pm
by mrmichaelt
^Now that you mention it, Studio 84 is rather specific. A now defunct 80s nightclub in West Harlem/Washington Heights resurrected as El Morocco. Although I have no clue if 84 used the same logo design as Studio 54 OR if Studio 84 is a stand-in for Studio 54 something that's been done in these comics with certain locations.

Erik also noted in addition to Red Sonja, he's got another title releasing in January. Make of that what you will.
https://twitter.com/erikburnham/status/ ... 5368879105

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 6:38 pm
by groschopf
Also, look at what's in the lower left corner. A very specific cover from a very specific book.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 6:42 pm
by mrmichaelt
groschopf wrote: October 22nd, 2019, 6:38 pm Also, look at what's in the lower left corner. A very specific cover from a very specific book.
lol, yeah, we have a ballpark of when Lattie worked on this cover based on that.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 8:19 pm
by mrmichaelt

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 22nd, 2019, 10:33 pm
by HauntedWallflower
Whoo! Coming back here after a long time! (No, I didn't stay away on purpose, life happened).

Anyway, yes, I liked the Transformers crossover, especially enjoyed seeing Janine having her own stash of Proton Grenades, her interactions with Prime and Ectotron, her coming up with the latter's name, Egon rowing up the Nile about the existence of Cybertron, Starscream meeting Green Ghost and the fact that Megatron is such a jerk he blames Optimus for leaving the others behind when he should be blaming Screamer for causing Gozer to destroy Cybertron.

And yes, I'm excited about Year One. Though also, not really cos I don't know what to think about the possibility of seeing Janine's heart get shattered slowly.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 2:47 am
by Kingpin
Looks like you guys are on the money, Ghostbusters: Year One seems to be an anthology of stories set around the first movie. Kinda a shame they aren't going for an adaptation, but still, I'm looking forward to this.

Though I am cringing at that incorrect title font popping up again.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 9:05 am
by Ghostytheghost
Kingpin wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 2:47 am Looks like you guys are on the money, Ghostbusters: Year One seems to be an anthology of stories set around the first movie. Kinda a shame they aren't going for an adaptation, but still, I'm looking forward to this.

Though I am cringing at that incorrect title font popping up again.
I like the anthology story concept! Halloween wanted to be that kinda thing when 3 came out, but peeps were dumb.

Also yes, that wannabe font should be replaced. I really hope someone builds a font out of all the scanned lettering from everything they can come across. Columbia Archives needs to spill the beans!

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 12:19 pm
by *NormalGamer*
Ghostytheghost wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 9:05 am
Kingpin wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 2:47 am Looks like you guys are on the money, Ghostbusters: Year One seems to be an anthology of stories set around the first movie. Kinda a shame they aren't going for an adaptation, but still, I'm looking forward to this.

Though I am cringing at that incorrect title font popping up again.
I like the anthology story concept! Halloween wanted to be that kinda thing when 3 came out, but peeps were dumb.

Also yes, that wannabe font should be replaced. I really hope someone builds a font out of all the scanned lettering from everything they can come across. Columbia Archives needs to spill the beans!
@ *referring to bold*

Oh, Halloween III: Season of the Witch; very, very underrated horror movie. Definitely remember that "Silver Shamrock" Jingle.

And yes, even if GB: YEAR ONE isn't an adaption of the 1984 classic, I wouldn't mind the anthology concept, as well, as long as we're getting more GB stories and fresh lore. ^_^

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 3:46 pm
by zeta otaku
This? This I like! Going back to the simplicity* of where they started out. No cross dimensional shenanigans, no globe hopping, just the core four and smaller busts. Bring it! (Don't kill me! I REALLY REALLY enjoyed the ongoing from the get-go! I just can't fathom how they could up the ante any more than they have!)

*as simple as catching ghosts and monsters with beams of radiation and holding them in a box is...

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 5:00 pm
by mrmichaelt
More
https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1187063892314210304

https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1187100550044667904

I suppose a good example would be Issue #8 from Volume 1 of the ongoing. The others were in it, but it was predominately an Egon story. This could be interesting to see them fill in more points like what they did with where Winston was during the Scoleri Brothers battle in the 2017 annual. Maybe with a hypothetical Winston story set during 1984, we could see what he meant by seeing shit that turns you white. lol.

It could kinda neat if they expand some of the busts in the montage like Egon walking out of the building saying he got it. Or reveal how they initially trapped the Zombie Taxi Driver or Subway Ghost. Or totally new stories are welcome.

Like zeta, I'm glad Tom was not fibbing and this next one is a non-crossover. And no AU Ghostbusters and no inter-franchise crossovers. I don't hate them but it felt it was time to head back to basics. Just busts. Like the 35th Anniversary one-shot. I think I'm gonna eat these stories up. I guess the only downside is the Ghostbusters' expanded support staff's absence will just have to be a little longer, heh heh.
Kingpin wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 2:47 am Though I am cringing at that incorrect title font popping up again.
I'm kinda lost. Is there some sort of history of the wrong font being used? (you're talking about the design of "Year One" right?)

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 7:02 pm
by Kingpin
mrmichaelt wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 5:00 pmI'm kinda lost. Is there some sort of history of the wrong font being used? (you're talking about the design of "Year One" right?)
With the comics, I think it first appeared with the Crossing Over arc, the team utilised a popular font that's circulated the community, which has been used by [/i]so[/i] franchise teams for their banners and fanfilm posters, that it's become the go-to font for Ghostbusters title wording, even though it differs drastically from the typeset used on the movie poster and titles of the original film.

It's so prevailent, it's showing up on official products, the Battle For New York ride out in Dubai and even the in-game titles of Ghostbusters: The Video Game are two notable examples, and Year One will be another.

The biggest giveaway are the serifs, note the curve on the inside of the E where the cross stroke meets the upward stroke. Also not the shape of the R, and the sharp points on the serifs:

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Another example of the incorrect font (this design, with the standard logo, has appeared on numerous T-shirts of late:

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Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 7:32 pm
by groschopf
It's tricky duplicating that font. I did it a couple of years ago for the Portland, OR group and got close. The diagonal stroke on the N looks awfully fat (especially after recently acquiring a vintage "Back off, man" bumper sticker. I think I modified Friz Quadrata to get there.

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If anyone comes across other vintage type specimens, let me know. I can trace them and try to make a font set to put online. I'm the same pedantic prick that hates seeing the bad version of the logo floating around, so I've tried to upload the correct version wherever I can. I'd be happy to do something similar here -- though I have to think the marketing collateral for the upcoming movie will create more opportunities to see the font in full.

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Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 23rd, 2019, 8:59 pm
by *NormalGamer*
mrmichaelt wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 5:00 pm More
https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1187063892314210304

https://twitter.com/TomWaltz/status/1187100550044667904

I suppose a good example would be Issue #8 from Volume 1 of the ongoing. The others were in it, but it was predominately an Egon story. This could be interesting to see them fill in more points like what they did with where Winston was during the Scoleri Brothers battle in the 2017 annual. Maybe with a hypothetical Winston story set during 1984, we could see what he meant by seeing shit that turns you white. lol.

It could kinda neat if they expand some of the busts in the montage like Egon walking out of the building saying he got it. Or reveal how they initially trapped the Zombie Taxi Driver or Subway Ghost. Or totally new stories are welcome.

Like zeta, I'm glad Tom was not fibbing and this next one is a non-crossover. And no AU Ghostbusters and no inter-franchise crossovers. I don't hate them but it felt it was time to head back to basics. Just busts. Like the 35th Anniversary one-shot. I think I'm gonna eat these stories up. I guess the only downside is the Ghostbusters' expanded support staff's absence will just have to be a little longer, heh heh.
Kingpin wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 2:47 am Though I am cringing at that incorrect title font popping up again.
I'm kinda lost. Is there some sort of history of the wrong font being used? (you're talking about the design of "Year One" right?)
@ *referring to bold*

If we have to wait a little longer for this, then I don't mind the wait.

I agree though that we are starving for more old fashioned ghostbuster stories in the prime world so GB Year One is giving us just that and there's a bit of lore to be explored there. ^_^

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 24th, 2019, 1:49 am
by Kingpin
groschopf wrote: October 23rd, 2019, 7:32 pmI can trace them and try to make a font set to put online.
I've actually got a font that's in a "almost ready to go online" stage that I'd been working on since about May or so, I'd put it on hold pending any revisions based on new material to come out from next year's movie. A large chunk of the missing characters were inspired by the somewhat tweaked ones which appeared in the 3D title straps for the 2016 movie, which was based on the original Ghostbusters font, but with softened serifs.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 24th, 2019, 2:01 am
by robbritton
While I’m super excited for Year One, I am quietly hoping it isn’t the beginning of a DC style overwrite of the existing IDW continuity. I like that continuity, and I’d miss all the ancillary characters were we never to see them again. I’d be especially sad to lose Peck and all his character’s development.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 24th, 2019, 4:17 am
by Kingpin
I'm beyond confident that's not what's going to happen, IDW have a good thing going with the lore they've established since the series began.

Re: Ghostbusters: Monthly - THEY'RE BACK!

Posted: October 24th, 2019, 6:49 am
by robbritton
Kingpin wrote: October 24th, 2019, 4:17 am I'm beyond confident that's not what's going to happen, IDW have a good thing going with the lore they've established since the series began.
I need to hear that kind of stuff. Y’know, if I had this kind of reassurance on a 24-hour basis, I could have myself convinced by the time Year One comes out.