Of all the nights to be away from the forum.
Still, an exciting time to be a ghosthead.
Observations from trailer 2:
•A bit more development of Grooberson, more to his supportive and laid-back nature. I definitely cracked a smile at his quip that there's still time for Phoebe to get into trouble.
•Digging Spinners, I wish we had a place like that where I live.
•Phoebe soldering the P.K.E., as noted previously. Looks like maybe... If that later shot is of it being held by Egon, that maybe it gets damaged in his final moments alive, and she ends up fixing it.
•She appears to be wearing the same outfit as she's attending to the P.K.E. as when she's activating the Gunner Seat for the first time.
•Despite the opening establishing shot, Grooberson and Callie appear to be having dinner at a chinese restaurant in Summerville, rather than Spinners.
•The production photo of Harold, Dan, Ernie and Bill made me smile, though it feels a little out of place (more on that below).
•Hearing Annie's voice, then seeing her... Broke me into another big grin.
•And then of course, grin-increased to full-on stupid when Trevor reveals Wrecto-1's no-ghost logo.
•"Ooof!" when the headline chrome toppled off as Trevor slammed the hood shut.
•Back to the stupid grin as Trevor tore across the corn field. You're all of us, kid.
•Gozerian "G" and art deco detailing on Summerville building - 3rd Avenue Arts in Drumheller.
•"Maybe it's the apocalypse?" - That got a laugh out of me. Grace has definitely ace a dry, Egon-esque deadpan.
•I said it when the teaser for the trailer was posted... I can never not grin like a kid whenever I see Ecto/Wrecto-1 speeding along a roadway with purpose.
•Seeing the old commercial was a nice touch, especially with faux tracking errors.
•More grinning seeing the P.K.E. in action. I think I thought maybe at the time it was Ray holding it, but now I see it as a possible scene of Egon in the moments before he dies... Possibly as a preface scene to the whole move. We never see his face (at least, not directly), but it's heavily hinted to be Egon as the scene plays out.
•Another moving lamp, like the Passing the Proton Pack
featurette. Almost certainly an indicator of Egon's presence, even if he isn't able to fully manifest.
•Minipufts! I'm a sucker for those cute little bastions of chaos.
•Holy f***! That Gozer temple!
•The effects on the sky portal look really polished (likely the product of the extra production time due to the pandemic delays).
•More than a few paranormal films from the '80s have told us no good can come from a well of souls.
•I didn't see it on the first viewing, but it does look like Gozer in its humanoid form.
•Explosions! No Ghostbusters film is complete without explosions!
•Loving that glowing crater opening up in the street, reminiscent of the road opening up on Central Park West but also doing something new with it. This is filmed on 24th Street in Fort Macleod, in front of the Queen's Hotel.
•The spectral sky trails from the first movie!
These shots are Drumheller.
•Wonder what that flaming ghost chasing the civilian outside Spinners was.
•Love the fact the waitress is non-nonchalantly pouring the miner ghost a coffee.
•And the miner ghost... Jeeze! They did a fantastic job with him... The peeled away flesh, the teeth!
•Didn't know this was the Terror Sentinel at the time of first viewing... But I love it! Scary ghosts is what Ghostbusters is all about! Also, shaking up what we thought we knew about the Trap/car battery scene.
•Grooberson running for his life... I shouldn't laugh, but seeing the Terror Dog obliterating the entrance to Walmart was brilliant. And I'd probably have reacted in the same way he did.
•Wrecto-1! Lights blazing! I feel like a kid again, watching The Real Ghostbusters
•The RTV, spoiled long-ago, but pretty awesome (if a little unlikely) in action.
•Nice to get a bit more of a look at Muncher.
•Check out that heavy-duty connector on the back of the RTV battery, that's no humble Foster quick-connect!
•And seeing Ray's Occult again! This should provide relief to those who feared Ghostbusters II
was not going to be addressed... And it's great to see they did a pretty decent effort (from the brief snippet we get anyway) of recreating the design of the set from 1988. It's 2020/1 appearance reminds me strongly of a new-age store that's in town.
The St. Marks Place storefront that was used in 1988 has been substantially changed in the intervening years, so this was likely filmed on a soundstage with those huge LED screens for the backgrounds, like the farmhouse interior set.
It may be an excellent replica, but that could also be the same "OCCULT BOOKS" sign used in 1988, the protective plastic casing appears identical, when Jason could always have just featured a close approximation.
•I suspect Ray's line has been cut short, excising a "Ray's Occult" that'll appear in the final film. Funny to see he's gotten a tattoo of his revelation quote, and also a nice bit of detailing seeing his glasses with chain hanging around his neck like he did in Ghostbusters II
As you guys have already interpreted... I'm extremely happy with the trailer... It was well-worth the wait, and while the non-die-hard fans might need another one... I feel that they shouldn't post any more trailers after this one... As I think it revealed enough without unveiling too much. But yeah, I'm sure there'll be another... Which'll probably be the final trailer before November.
robbritton wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 8:08 amit’s interesting that Jason talks about differences happening to Ecto-1 between “1984 and now” in the featurette. When he talks about things specific to GB2, like Ray’s Occult, he’s careful to say 1989. Which is a long-winded way to say that I’m starting to suspect I’ve been wrong forever, and that Ecto-1 and Ecto-1A might well actually be two separate cars in canon.
Ecto24601 wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 11:20 am We may safely assume that Ecto-1 and Ecto-1A are separate cars, as per movie canon. No GB2 redlines, thankfully!
Jason's exact words are:
Jason Reitman wrote:...We wanted to think about, y'know, what kind of technology was added to Ecto-1 in between 1984 and 2021...
That is by-far the biggest indicator that as far as Jason's concerned, Ecto-1, Ecto-1A, and Wrecto-1 are all the same car. It's something that may come up in Afterlife
itself, but barring a contradicting thing he may say at a later point, I think we can now close the book on this lingering question.
Michael Scott wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 8:39 am Jason said Janine attempted to care for Egon in his old age. Not a confirmation that they were ever a couple again or that she is related to the family.
It's definitely left ambiguous, and we'll have to wait until November to see if Callie calls Janine "Mom", or just "Janine". I'd like to believe they married, but I'll respect Jason's decision if he chose a different path... Feeling that Egon's particular mindset and motivation wouldn't consider something as normal/mundane as marriage... Not out of maliciousness, but simply because it's something he doesn't really understand, in his way.
JonXCTrack wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 8:41 am The only thing that bugs me, and it really is just me over thinking it, but the photo of the OGBs, they're wearing the same outfits they were wearing when the ECU exploded. I doubt they'd stop and take a photo together during that event. Maybe they went back to the HQ after they defeated Gozer and changed into what they were wearing before the battle? I dunno. It just seems like they should have used a different photo.
That's the one fly in the trailer's ointment for me... The basis for the photo doesn't really make sense because it doesn't really fit in context to the events as depicted on-screen, they had no time to get photographed after the ECU blew and before being arrested, and they'd have been too preoccupied with gathering up the gear they needed and getting dressed for the battle with Gozer after being released from jail.
I think in hindsight, this would've been a better choice... As you could rationalize it as having been taken by a member of the crowd:
groschopf wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 9:50 am Is the apparel we're seeing in that shot of a hand holding the PKE one of the lab coats from the commercial in the first film?
It's tricky to gauge, as the blue light that's visible on the P.K.E. may be distorting the colour of the coat.
JonXCTrack wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 10:02 am I actually think that this is Ray pulling a PKE meter out of a drawer in the Occult Bookstore.
The shot appears to have stained glass in it, which looks like it could be one of the stained glass windows visible on the farmhouse set.
pizzarat wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 10:46 amIf he's going as far to recreate a one set from one scene in Ghostbusters II I feel like the "where's 1-A?" question will be answered.
Except by all accounts, Ecto-1A no longer exists as a prop, having been repurposed as one of the two 1959 Wrecto-1 props.
deadderek wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 10:47 am So do we think they got back the original actress for Gozer? IF
Gozer appears as a human...
I don't expect we will see Slavitza Jovan reprising Gozer, but we may see a de-aged digital recreation, if the trailer is anything to go by. Plus we have the giant statue of Gozer to also serve as a surrogate.
deadderek wrote: ↑July 27th, 2021, 1:55 pm So how long until Ghostbusters 4?
droidguy1119 wrote: ↑July 28th, 2021, 9:57 amand those lost viewers are as legitimate and worth considering as the guaranteed viewers, if we're really trying to examine what the public thinks.
There's a portion who are definitely worth considering, but we've seen plenty of examples of fans or potential viewers who have rejected going to see it for some very petty reasons or trivial reasons (such as giving up the film entirely solely for being delayed because of the pandemic) I don't think the fans who are avoiding it for petty reasons are necessarily ones to spend a lot of time considering in the grand scheme of things.