[beric]

Hi all!
I just finished my custom pedal build to work with the Spirit trap (viewtopic.php?t=50189)
and got my HasLab 2 in the box.
i appreciate deeply what everyone does for this community, and know what we work to do to make things as accurate as possible.
And I went down a rabbit hole with screen accuracy.
I pored over this site and the GB reference library.
Here's what I've found:
There are 5 distinct traps seen in GB1.
the ballroom trap
the hotel lobby trap
the winston hire trap
the twinkie trap
the yellow rod trap

However, what we can see does not always give a full view of the trap and pedal.
Knowing that there were different physical production models of the traps for different purposes, some assumptions are made. I am eager to learn, and if my conclusions are highly questionable, speak up!

The ballroom trap is unique in that the loom has red tape, the red sticker is not present under the handle, and the sticker on the bottom is not present.
The lobby trap is unique in that is also has red tape, but the 2 stickers are present.
The winston hire trap is unique in that it does not have red tape, but the top sticker is present.

A physical trap has been identified that has the remnants of the top sticker, and some views can make it appear to be the silver/white sticker under the handle on the HasLab trap. I have not seen a screen verified image of this decal, nor on any physical models. I think this decal in that position is not accurate.

The 4th trap is the yellow rod trap does not have a top or back sticker seen, but does have red tape. This appears to match the ballroom trap, except for the distinctly not-red rods not he side. Some speculate these are actually silver, like GB2. I strongly disagree.

The 5th trap seen is during the twinkie conversation. It has the same features as the ballroom trap, but the rods aren't seen, which makes it hard to verify is this is the ballroom trap, the yellow rod trap, or a 6th trap.

There are 2 GB 2 traps. A 3rd is also present, but I believe this to be the same as the others, except missing decals; I do not think this is a unique 3rd variation of the trap.
The GB2 trap has: silver side rods, a silver side knob, no top sticker, no bottom sticker, and black electrical tape on the loom.
The only variation within the GB2 traps are the decals on the front plate with the 4 knobs. These decals are not seen on any GB1 trap.

That's it. 6 traps to pick from when you mod your traps to be accurate. 4 GB1 and 2 GB2.

As for the pedal, there is a distinct GB1 and GB2.
For simplicities sake, I'll list the differences in the GB2 pedal.
There is no sticker on the top of the relay.
The sticker on that side box is centered, rather than on the upper left.
One pin relay is a black box, rather than the grey piece.
The d-sub is grey, not black.
There is a black pin connector attached to the ribbon cable and grey d-sub; this piece is not on the GB1 pedal- the ribbon cable inserts directly into the d-sub.
The yellow and red wire connect to their fittings with a grey and red ring, respectively.
The foster is centered; in GB1 it is lower.
The banjo is angled.

That all being said, I'm modding the HasLab to be GB2 and my custom/Spirit to be GB1 Lobby trap. Since the HasLab is weathered and has the front decals, it made sense for this to be a later model; and that the pedal has the GB2 style ribbon cable pins. And I'm going to make my Rubies/Walmart the yellow rod.

Let me know what I missed!
Thank you and good luck modding!

[beric]

For the pedal, GB2 has a hex connector for the yellow tube, not the knurled legris.

[tobycj]

There were four aluminium hero traps made for GB1, and the yellow rod trap was a stunt trap. The yellow rod trap did have the front plate decals as well. There was also a lightweight foam trap made for GB1.

In terms of the pedal, the base is different between GB1 and GB2, the "ears" at the hinge end are different sizes on the GB2 pedal. GB1 used 26 pin ribbon cable, GB2 was 20 pin. The d-sub was totally different between the two films too. The sticker on the relay Hammond box was different too (two halves of a larger label, also seen on the containment unit). The screws in the base were different (GB1 slotted, GB2 Phillips). The relay had a socket for GB2, and was just glued onto the Hammond box for GB1. GB1 pedal had a resistor under the pedal plate, that the red and yellow tubing attached to, this was absent for GB2 and the tubing just seems to feed into holes under the pedal plate. The bellows was different material between the two as well. There's probably some other bits I'm forgetting too.

[One time]

I'd love pictoral evidence of this.

GBreferencelibrary has images but they are hard to differentiate all the parts you mention

[tobycj]

I'd love pictoral evidence of this.

GBreferencelibrary has images but they are hard to differentiate all the parts you mention

Are there any particular parts I've mentioned you want pictures of? I'm very lazy, and hate using imgur on my phone to host photos to post here!

[IslaFoster]

I'd love pictoral evidence of this.
GBreferencelibrary has images but they are hard to differentiate all the parts you mention

Are there any particular parts I've mentioned you want pictures of? I'm very lazy, and hate using imgur on my phone to host photos to post here!

I think everyone hates it. hehe.

[beric]

after much more research, modding haslab and spirit traps, communication within the community, and humbling, I stand corrected.
After my hours upon hours upon hours pouring over the GB reference library site, and notes upon notes and spreadsheets, I can say with full confidence that there are many trap variations between GB1 and GB2. The biggest differentiator is pattern of the front knobs.
Regardless of this, I have identified 5 basic ghost trap body models.
1- the yellow rod trap
1a- the red rod trap, modified from the yellow rod
1b- the silver rod trap, modified from the yellow rod
1a1- the silver rod trap, modified from the red rod, which was modified from the yellow rod
2- the silver rod made for GB2

Based on the location and type of screws, the decals, the knobs, the rods...these are the 5 basic models. There are variations within these models and uncertainty of details to positively identify which trap is which, and which came from which.
Genealogically, though, there are only these 5 traps.
To repeat, if that helps, biblically speaking: the yellow begot the red, which begot the silver; the yellow also begot a silver.

I can cite my sources and point you to specific pages and images in the GB reference library site.

I hope this helps someone, anyone, and everyone!